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On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:11:30 GMT, Matt Whiting
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Larry Dighera wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:22:36 -0000, wrote in
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Well, now these young men get to find out what its like in an ass-
pounding prison...

So, in your mind the just punishment for burglary is anal rape?


That is pretty mild, but better than nothing. I prefer cutting off a
finger or two or maybe an entire hand for serious cases.

Matt


Your point of barbaric view is predictable given your irrational
beliefs.

On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 04:44:26 -0400, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN"
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com wrote in
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Larry Dighera wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:22:36 -0000, wrote in
.com:

Well, now these young men get to find out what its like in an ass-
pounding prison...

So, in your mind the just punishment for burglary is anal rape?


Works for me. If they don't want to get punished, they shouldn't do the crime.

Why isn't incarceration alone fitting punishment for burglary? Why
don't you see anal rape as falling under the "cruel and unusual" group
of impermissible punishments?

I have zero empathy for the perps.

I am also opposed to crime, but it is beneath the dignity of an
enlightened nation to condone barbaric practices.

How do you feel about the millions of undocumented immigrants who
illegally enter our nation? Do you think they should be lined up,
bent over and raped? Is that the kind of nation you'd be proud to be
part of?

Larry Dighera wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:11:30 GMT, Matt Whiting
wrote in :

Larry Dighera wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:22:36 -0000, wrote in
.com:

Well, now these young men get to find out what its like in an ass-
pounding prison...
So, in your mind the just punishment for burglary is anal rape?

That is pretty mild, but better than nothing. I prefer cutting off a
finger or two or maybe an entire hand for serious cases.

Matt


Your point of barbaric view is predictable given your irrational
beliefs.

My beliefs are very rational. If you were a rational thinker you would
see that. Letting criminals virtually go free for their crimes is one
reason our crime rate is so high.

Matt

Matt Whiting wrote:
My beliefs are very rational. If you were a rational thinker you would
see that. Letting criminals virtually go free for their crimes is one
reason our crime rate is so high.

I submit I can find statistics showing a higher correlation between high
employment levels (a robust economy) and lower crime rate than any
correlation statistics you can find for tougher sentencing yielding lower
crime rate.

You ever read, or at least see one of the film versions of, Les Miserables
by Victor Hugo? Would you have insisted Jean Valjean have his fingers cut
off? You do know what his original offense was, don't you? And the original
sentence? No fair looking up the answer! :-)

Say - did you know the Fugitive Slave Law of 1850 required the return of
escaped slaves to their owners? A pretty clear cut law - so how would you
have handled a situation where you knew of an escaped slave?

Jim Logajan wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote:
My beliefs are very rational. If you were a rational thinker you would
see that. Letting criminals virtually go free for their crimes is one
reason our crime rate is so high.

I submit I can find statistics showing a higher correlation between high
employment levels (a robust economy) and lower crime rate than any
correlation statistics you can find for tougher sentencing yielding lower
crime rate.

I didn't say it was the only solution or even the best solution, just
part of the solution.


You ever read, or at least see one of the film versions of, Les Miserables
by Victor Hugo? Would you have insisted Jean Valjean have his fingers cut
off? You do know what his original offense was, don't you? And the original
sentence? No fair looking up the answer! :-)

No, I have not seen this film.


Say - did you know the Fugitive Slave Law of 1850 required the return of
escaped slaves to their owners? A pretty clear cut law - so how would you
have handled a situation where you knew of an escaped slave?

I'm not familiar with that law as I'm not as old as you! :-)

Matt

How do you feel about the millions of undocumented immigrants who
illegally enter our nation? Do you think they should be lined up,
bent over and raped? Is that the kind of nation you'd be proud to be
part of?

No, that's too harsh. Just being sent home would be good enough for
me. Heck, I'd be happy if anyone in law enforcement even cared enough
to SCARE 'em a little. But that won't happen.

Back to this thread -- congrats on busting the punks! Personally, I'd
be in favor of the death penalty for crimes of this nature -- but
instead maybe they'll at least do some hard time and have to pay some
serious fines.

However, since they don't have any prior criminal records, they'll
probably just get "probation" and be right back at it within a few
months...

:-(
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Larry Dighera wrote:
Why isn't incarceration alone fitting punishment for burglary? Why
don't you see anal rape as falling under the "cruel and unusual" group
of impermissible punishments?


It is my understanding this is not unusual at all in today's jails and prisons.
All the more reason not to do anything to get thrown into one.


How do you feel about the millions of undocumented immigrants who
illegally enter our nation? Do you think they should be lined up,
bent over and raped? Is that the kind of nation you'd be proud to be
part of?


You certainly seem to be fixated on rape. Any particular reason?



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

("Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote)
You certainly seem to be fixated on rape. Any particular reason?


"Joey, you like movies about gladiators?"

"You ever been in a cockpit before?"
"No sir, I've never been up in a plane before."
"You ever ...seen a grown man naked?"

"Joey, did you ever hang around a gymnasium?"

"Joey, have you ever been ...in a, aTurkish prison?"


A: Someone had to do it ....!
B: (NAC) Necessary Aviation Content


P-Mont

On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 23:28:24 -0400, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN"
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com wrote in
:

Larry Dighera wrote:
Why isn't incarceration alone fitting punishment for burglary? Why
don't you see anal rape as falling under the "cruel and unusual" group
of impermissible punishments?


It is my understanding this is not unusual at all in today's jails and prisons.
All the more reason not to do anything to get thrown into one.


So you think the US military's behavior in Abu Grave was appropriate?
You have no respect for the rule of law.


How do you feel about the millions of undocumented immigrants who
illegally enter our nation? Do you think they should be lined up,
bent over and raped? Is that the kind of nation you'd be proud to be
part of?


You certainly seem to be fixated on rape. Any particular reason?

I'm reacting to this crass statement:

On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:22:36 -0000, wrote in
.com:

Well, now these young men get to find out what its like in an
ass-pounding prison...

Please try to keep up with the discussion.

Condoning lawlessness within the nation's prison systems is
reprehensible as it condones crime not the rule of law. Can't you see
that?

The intent of punishment for criminal behavior should be
rehabilitation, not vengeance. I believe restitution should play a
large role in sentencing. That way a criminal sees that s/he does not
benefit from their criminal acts, but compensates victims instead.

The chances of rehabilitating a first time offender through brutality
are nil. It only fosters resentment not contrition.

Of course, our privatized penal system offers no incentive to
rehabilitate criminals. Quite the contrary, it rewards contractors
like Wackenhut* for each inmate.


* http://www.g4s.com/usw/usw-services-government.htm

One of my all-time favorite movies... "Oh stewardess... I speak jive.."
:-)

Jon

Montblack wrote:
("Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote)

You certainly seem to be fixated on rape. Any particular reason?



"Joey, you like movies about gladiators?"

"You ever been in a cockpit before?"
"No sir, I've never been up in a plane before."
"You ever ...seen a grown man naked?"

"Joey, did you ever hang around a gymnasium?"

"Joey, have you ever been ...in a, aTurkish prison?"


A: Someone had to do it ....!
B: (NAC) Necessary Aviation Content


P-Mont