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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message ... Andrew Gideon wrote: That was the story behind some airline crash in Florida, if memory serves. An L-1011. The pilots were descending for approach into Miami. An idiot light came on, they started trying to trouble-shoot that, accidentally knocked the control column (which turned the autopilot off), and set down in the glades. The airline salvaged some of the plane and reused the pieces during maintenance of other aircraft in the fleet. The ghost of the flight engineer was said to haunt all of the planes that received these parts. I remember that it was quite a scandal in Atlanta at the time - a number of people quit the airline. Eventually all the parts were removed and destroyed. Years later, the made a movie of the incident. Starred Ernest Borgnine, as I recall. "The Ghost of Flight 401" (1978), a "made for TV" movie. http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0077610/maindetails James Randi debunked the Hollyweird/stories that came out of it shortly after and it was hilarious. Matt --------------------- Matthew W. Barrow Site-Fill Homes, LLC. Montrose, CO |
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"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message gonline.com... C J Campbell wrote: I wonder what his altitude was when he ran into trouble. Perhaps he was too low, or maybe he thought he could make an emergency landing safely. Guess we will have to wait for more details. Or he was working on the problem and neglected to actually fly the airplane. That was the story behind some airline crash in Florida, if memory serves. But, as you say, we don't know enough to do more than guess wildly. I suppose I should go with that theme and say it was a problem getting the plane into the alien spaceship's docking bay. Ah, then following Usenet protocol I should flame you, questioning your parentage and your personal habits as well as your politics, and say that it was obviously an Illuminati plot. |
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, C J Campbell wrote:
"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message gonline.com... C J Campbell wrote: I wonder what his altitude was when he ran into trouble. Perhaps he was too low, or maybe he thought he could make an emergency landing safely. Guess we will have to wait for more details. Or he was working on the problem and neglected to actually fly the airplane. That was the story behind some airline crash in Florida, if memory serves. But, as you say, we don't know enough to do more than guess wildly. I suppose I should go with that theme and say it was a problem getting the plane into the alien spaceship's docking bay. Ah, then following Usenet protocol I should flame you, questioning your parentage and your personal habits as well as your politics, and say that it was obviously an Illuminati plot. Don't forget that one of you will have to mention Hitler & the Nazis and/or take a swipe at G.W. Bush/the evil liberals [delete as appropriate] to make it a real Usenet argument! Just trying to help, Brian www.warbard.ca/avgas/ |
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"Brian Burger" wrote in message ia.tc.ca... Don't forget that one of you will have to mention Hitler & the Nazis and/or take a swipe at G.W. Bush/the evil liberals [delete as appropriate] to make it a real Usenet argument! Just trying to help, Well, you should have cross-posted the thread to at least three other groups when you jumped in to help. |
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Guess we
will have to wait for more details. That would be a novel experience for aviation discussion groups |
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Capt.Doug,
regarding your subject line: The parachute is not meant to do that. The pilot is. -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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Thomas Borchert wrote:
Capt.Doug, regarding your subject line: The parachute is not meant to do that. The pilot is. That's the way it used to be. Now the pilot has a resignation handle. -- Gene Seibel Hangar 131 - http://pad39a.com/gene/plane.html Because I fly, I envy no one. |
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"Gene Seibel" wrote in message ups.com... That's the way it used to be. Now the pilot has a resignation handle. -- That's one way to look at it. Another is that this is simply one more back-up system to deal with certain failure modes that are otherwise unrecoverable. The real mistake is thinking that this will be a *huge* improvement to safety. The lay public thinks that if only people had parachutes (including on airliners), nobody would get killed in airplane accidents. To them, an airplane with a parachute should be 100% safe. In fact the types of accidents where this can help are relatively rare, as seen by the ratio of accidents to saves. I maintain that airbags, such as those being installed in new Cessnas, will do a lot more to reduce misery by helping in a far wider range of situations. But the smart thing obviously is to do both. If we're talking pilot incapacitation, structural failure, engine loss at night or over hostile terrain, the 'chute is a great option that will save some lives. It certainly won't kill anybody who didn't start digging their own hole. -cwk. |
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Gene Seibel wrote: That's the way it used to be. Now the pilot has a resignation handle. That's pretty good! I wear one strapped to my rear-end when I fly... and there's gotta be a 'flush handle' joke in there, someplace. :-) -Dave Russell 8KCAB / N2S-3 |
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"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
regarding your subject line: The parachute is not meant to do that. The pilot is. Don't worry, The UK is slowly coming around to the American way of blaming anyone and everything so long as personal accountability can be suppressed. D. |
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