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Old November 27th 05, 11:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Does the 430 have extended runway depictions like the 196 and other
handhelds have?

Does the 430 have the VNAV profile for descents like the 196 and other
handhelds have?


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Old November 27th 05, 11:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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No, and yes, in that order.


On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 18:30:44 -0500, "John Doe"
wrote:

Does the 430 have extended runway depictions like the 196 and other
handhelds have?

Does the 430 have the VNAV profile for descents like the 196 and other
handhelds have?


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Old November 28th 05, 03:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Bill Zaleski wrote:

No, and yes, in that order.


Bill, as a user of a GNS430 who has never seen the extended runway
depictions feature of a 196 before, I am curious what that feature is.
Could you describe it?

I am able to get an extended runway centerline to almost any airport with
an instrument approach by choosing "Vectors to Final" procedure option on
the GNS430, but apparently that is not what the OP desires?

Thanks for any insight.

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Peter
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Old November 28th 05, 03:38 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Extended runway on the 196 includes all runways, and not just the one
you have VTF to. Sort of a mini localizer icon extending out from all
runwayson the airport.


On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 22:30:15 -0500, "Peter R."
wrote:

Bill Zaleski wrote:

No, and yes, in that order.


Bill, as a user of a GNS430 who has never seen the extended runway
depictions feature of a 196 before, I am curious what that feature is.
Could you describe it?

I am able to get an extended runway centerline to almost any airport with
an instrument approach by choosing "Vectors to Final" procedure option on
the GNS430, but apparently that is not what the OP desires?

Thanks for any insight.


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Old November 28th 05, 08:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Peter,

Could you describe it?


A feature used on many handhelds to keep the pilot's eyes inside the
cockpit at a crucial time when they should be outside gd&r

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Old November 28th 05, 05:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Bill Zaleski wrote:

Extended runway on the 196 includes all runways, and not just the one
you have VTF to. Sort of a mini localizer icon extending out from all
runwayson the airport.


Ahhh, thanks.


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Peter
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Old November 28th 05, 06:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Peter R." wrote in message
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Bill Zaleski wrote:

Extended runway on the 196 includes all runways, and not just the one
you have VTF to. Sort of a mini localizer icon extending out from all
runwayson the airport.


Ahhh, thanks.
Peter


...and if the extensions on the 196 bother you, you can turn them off.


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Old November 28th 05, 10:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Ah, but you can setup same with the Direct button, scroll (twist) down to
course & put in your approach course. When you return to the map page, the
intercept course will be there. With an A/P, you use the heading bug to
intercept and arm the Nav/Approach. When you capture, the plane turns
inbound. The same technique works when intercepting an airway.

( I'm sure I skipped a step. )

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Thx, {|;-)

Victor J. (Jim) Osborne, Jr.
"Bill Zaleski" wrote in message
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No, and yes, in that order.


On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 18:30:44 -0500, "John Doe"
wrote:

Does the 430 have extended runway depictions like the 196 and other
handhelds have?

Does the 430 have the VNAV profile for descents like the 196 and other
handhelds have?




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Old November 28th 05, 10:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Victor J. Osborne, Jr." wrote:

Ah, but you can setup same with the Direct button, scroll (twist) down to
course & put in your approach course.


Doesn't that take you to the airport reference point, though? Or doesn't
the difference between the ARP and the landing runway matter when you are
many miles from the airport?

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Peter
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Old November 28th 05, 10:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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It has been my experience that the procedure takes you to the end of the
runway. Perhaps it's the IFR nature of the product or the reference point
so close enough to the centerline that it's not apparent.

Although, when nav'ing Direct to the airport, I believe the GPS points to
the airport reference point. But at that point I'm entering the pattern VFR
anyway.

Thx, {|;-)

Victor J. (Jim) Osborne, Jr.

"Peter R." wrote in message
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"Victor J. Osborne, Jr." wrote:

Ah, but you can setup same with the Direct button, scroll (twist) down to
course & put in your approach course.


Doesn't that take you to the airport reference point, though? Or doesn't
the difference between the ARP and the landing runway matter when you are
many miles from the airport?

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Peter



 




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