Oops

On 6/7/19 9:47 AM, Michael Opitz wrote:
At 14:31 07 June 2019, Steve Leonard wrote:
On Friday, June 7, 2019 at 6:03:32 AM UTC-5, Tango Eight wrote:

Crash site is 2.7 miles from runway intersection at Danbury. "In
the
patt=
ern" doesn't make sense to me. =20
=20
T8

Agree with the "not funny" comment, but also agree with Evan.
2.7 miles
NE=
of the airport and down to a couple of hundred feet does not
sound like
"i=
n the pattern". Poked in the east side of the roof and the top part
of
the=
chimney is broken off. Plane looks to have been nearly straight
down,
bel=
ly to the southwest when it went into the house. Pictures of the
removal.

https://www.newstimes.com/local/arti...family-awaits-
removal-of-pl=
ane-from-their-13938862.php?
fbclid=3DIwAR0Fltiu0ZnuFRXpGXWx2ZT79fbbLs-KULd3=
tRc-d--qsNXoz8pBaFUkbr0#photo-17612062

People are not perfect. We make mistakes. I am leaning toward
Ramy's
comm=
ent on tunnel vision. I have had it while flying. In the pattern. It
is
=
not fun.

Steve Leonard


I'd like to see a GPS flight log if one becomes available. I live in CT
and never heard of this guy. I'm betting that he's a power pilot
conversion type who was trying to fly the pattern like a SEL type
(power-on, dragged in final) in order to try and fit in with their
tower traffic. Those things might take off as a self launcher, but
should be landed as a glider. Some folks just don't get that.

RO


If you look at Google Earth, he's not lined up with either runway. I'm
thinking he was trying to do a low final glide and got hit with sink,
rather than being on final in a landing pattern.

Another news story
https://m.newstimes.com/local/articl...photo-17611397

On Friday, June 7, 2019 at 10:15:14 AM UTC-7, danlj wrote:
Another news story
https://m.newstimes.com/local/articl...photo-17611397

And the homeowner complaints sounds like a mental anguish lawsuit is brewing.... Sigh.

I agree with 5Z. From the first reporting from the scene, I detected that drift.

I hope I'm wrong.

Lou

In situations like this, I always want to hear from whoever sign this guy off. People that are new to our sport depend on those with experience to tell them what they need to know about outlanding, patterns, stalls and spins, and such. We don't do anybody any good teaching to the minimums. Motorgliders are not power planes! Where did he get his training? What is his flight history? Soartech, do you have anymore input for us?

Boggs

On Fri, 07 Jun 2019 10:15:11 -0700, danlj wrote:

Another news story
https://m.newstimes.com/local/articl...ts-removal-of-
plane-from-their-13938862.php#photo-17611397

If you look at the other side of the roof, i.e. the side without the
glider sticking out, there would appear to be a lot of shingles(?)
missing. I'm not familiar with that type of roofing, but that looks like
somewhat older damage. Am I right about that, or would the shingles have
been blown off when the glider went through the other side of the roof?


--
Martin | martin at
Gregorie | gregorie dot org

You're right, that roof shows evidence of a long history of neglect. Based on the videos, I'd guess they have needed a new roof for at least the last 30 years or so. And from the Google street view images, dated 2014, you can see evidence of a lot of rot on all front facing windows, door casings, and porch so it's pretty clear the home has missed a lot of maintenance over the years.

On Saturday, June 8, 2019 at 10:07:19 AM UTC-5, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Fri, 07 Jun 2019 10:15:11 -0700, danlj wrote:

Another news story
https://m.newstimes.com/local/articl...ts-removal-of-
plane-from-their-13938862.php#photo-17611397

If you look at the other side of the roof, i.e. the side without the
glider sticking out, there would appear to be a lot of shingles(?)
missing. I'm not familiar with that type of roofing, but that looks like
somewhat older damage. Am I right about that, or would the shingles have
been blown off when the glider went through the other side of the roof?


--
Martin | martin at
Gregorie | gregorie dot org

"One of the aircraft’s wings fell on the other side of the house"


There could be a clue why the shingles were missing.

Cheers

Paul

On Sat, 08 Jun 2019 11:58:19 -0700, Paul B wrote:

"One of the aircraft’s wings fell on the other side of the house"


There could be a clue why the shingles were missing.

It looks as if the wing was snapped off by hitting the chimney: given
that I'd expect it to have taken out the shingles along a line from the
chimney to where the outer end of the wing lies on the grass, not several
rows of shingles running so far along the roof parallel to the roof ridge
and guttering.


--
Martin | martin at
Gregorie | gregorie dot org

It must be pre planned then. They needed a new roof, so looked for a glider to crash through their roof so they can make an insurance claim. Common fraud ;-)

:-)

Ramy