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FYI - top posting is the current norm in many Usenet groups, especially the
MS tech support groups where I spend most of my time. With newsreaders like Outlook Express, some people find embedded responses can be more difficult to read than the top posts. Well, there's the problem! Invoking the MS name and products explains everything. Garbage in, garbage out. |
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I'm flying the alleganies in a couple of weeks... Wonder what pucker-up
adventures await... Denny "vincent p. norris" wrote in message ... On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 21:19:52 GMT, EDR wrote: The Central PA mountains are another local weather maker which inhibit east-west flight. The mountains have claimed many an aircraft and unwary pilot. IFR, VFR or doesn't it matter? I was flying IFR over PA yesterday afternoon at 8,000ft, above a solid layer and was listening to several VFR pilots talking to Harrisburg Approach about quickly deteriorating weather. A few tried to get pop-up IFR clearances but were temporarily denied, while others were doing 180s and trying to find nearby airports in which to land. It did not sound pleasant. Ernie Gann wrote about flying Pennsylvania and the Alleganies during the DC-2/3 days. Summer, Winter, day and night. Worst icing I ever experienced was near Williamsport, PA (IPT) when I picked up so much clear ice in about 5 to 10 minutes my Cherokee was down to 85 knots at full power, and barely maintaining altitude. But it's a hell of a lot easier, and safer, than it was when airmail pilots were flying DH-4s with no navaids, or for that matter, even 50 years ago when there were no VORs or ILS approaches or weather radar. vince norris |
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Well said!
"Steve House" wrote in message ... Nothing to do with MS as a company nor invoking their name or authority. Just saying that the abhorrence to top posting is not universally true on Usenet and in many forums -- serious purpose forums where most of participants are neither computer nor internet newbies nor technical incompetents, with the MS technical forums being a case in point (unless you consider MS developers, typical MSDN and Technet subscribers, and MS MVPs to be generally incompetent newbies) -- it is the norm rather than the exception. In most instances a format that resembles an exchange of letters or a series of articles by various authors published in successive issues of a journal discussing a point is more intelligible than wading through quoted text to find the sentences and phrases that are new to the thread with that particular message. Leaving the original(s) intact at the bottom allows for reference back should the reader desire and allows someone who is newly arrived on the forum to see the history and context of the reply yet does not force them to scroll through it looking for the relevant reply text. It also allows people who do not keep a message history in their newsreader - I, for one, purge the newsgroups of downloaded message bodies each time I exit my reader - to review the history without having to re-download the message bodies yet consumes minimal time and space. The idea that Usenet postings should be terse snipits made sense when each character was relatively expensive to transmit compared to today but that's no longer the case. Another point to consider regarding deleting quoted text - take a look at your quoted message below. You have deleted the header information that would normally appear about the first line (the line beginning "FYI") showing that those lines originated with a message by me and as a result it appears that the thoughts in the top 4 lines that you are critiquing originated with yourself. Which is clearer as to who said what - my leaving your header in or your taking my header out in order to save space? Top posting with your remarks, leaving at least the quoted message to which you are replying, if not the entire thread, intact at the bottom makes correct attribution of who said what on the part of other readers much clearer. "john smith" wrote in message ... FYI - top posting is the current norm in many Usenet groups, especially the MS tech support groups where I spend most of my time. With newsreaders like Outlook Express, some people find embedded responses can be more difficult to read than the top posts. Well, there's the problem! Invoking the MS name and products explains everything. Garbage in, garbage out. |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote:
Someone told me they have aerobatics displays and stuff at the show - is that true? You're kidding, right Dan? Uh, yes, Jay. Take a nap; you've been manning the front desk too long. -- Dan C172RG at BFM |
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On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 10:39:36 -0400, "Dennis O'Connor"
wrote: I'm flying the alleganies in a couple of weeks... Wonder what pucker-up adventures await... Denny Well, a great many of us do it every day, so it's not a death sentence. The scenery is beautiful. If you're a flatlander, keep in mind that the airports are in the valleys, so a ceiling reported as 1200 feet means there's only about 200 feet clearance over the tops of the ridges. And if the wind is NW at 15 knots or more, it will be bumpy. vinced norris |
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