Airparks; Living On The Beaten Path?

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:27:31 -0400, Orval Fairbairn wrote:

When my wife and I were looking for a place to live, I bought the books
on airparks and easily separated out the places where we DIDN'T want to
live:

1.Those out in the boondocks where you have to drive an hour to get a
loaf of bread or a can of paint.

2. Those too small to defend themselves when the neighboring Philistines
start campaigning against the airpark.
3. Anything on wells/septic tanks.
4. Any where the residents don't OWN the runway.

Reasoning here?

The reason is that if the residents don't OWN the runway, they are
potentially at the maercy of the landowners. Even though the residents
may have contractually permanent access, they may have legal hassles if
the landowners attempt to renege on their contracts.

I knew people in CA who had this problem at Sierra Skypark. They
eventually prevailed, but it cost them a lot of hassle and legal fees
when the owner of the runway attempted to close it for development.

That's what I thought. "A ROW is a good as your ability to defend it." ~
attorney 2007
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I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor,
just a rather slow student who's not qualified to give advice that
might kill someone.

WJRFlyBoy wrote:
This got me thinking, a rudderless Ercoupe in a multi-directional wind
landing......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l2NJFrvYls

Do you (I) really want a home that close to a GA landing strip? Yet I see
megabuck homes in my neck of the woods


On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 15:29:59 -0700 (PDT), Dan wrote:

And this video is remarkable because...?

Not the video, it reminded me of this question/thread I wanted to initiate.
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I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor,
just a rather slow student who's not qualified to give advice that
might kill someone.

"BobR" wrote in message
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The sad part of it is that there are a lot of "educated" adults out
there who are of the same mindset. We shouldn't be allowed to fly
because we might fly over their house, car, or space and suddenly fall
out of the sky on top of them. They are the same group of morons who
will totally disregard a thousand other greater risks to their well
being without a second thought. I wouldn't give a damn except they
are the same ones who are constantly trying to force limits on
everyones freedom to live because they have no life of their own.


Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-
preserved body,
But rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting

"....Holy ****....What a RIDE!"

Regrettably, that sums it up! :-(

Peter

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"WJRFlyBoy" wrote in message
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This got me thinking, a rudderless Ercoupe in a multi-directional
wind landing......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l2NJFrvYls

Do you (I) really want a home that close to a GA landing strip? Yet I
see megabuck homes in my neck of the woods

http://www.visualtour.com/shownp.asp?prt=85&t=1217861

http://preview.tinyurl.com/39avgz Use satellite mode

Am I missing something? Isn't this a bit off the safety charts?
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Cake with a 'coupe. Faster than any other equal powered production
plane...


No, it wasn't. not by a long shot.

Luscombe, Rearwin, T cart. All faster on the same horsepower.



Bertie


Ercoupe 415, 85 hp, cruise ~110 mph
(http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/airc...upe-415-g.html)
Luscombe 8F, 90 hp, cruise ~95 mph
(http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/airc...scombe-8a.html)
Rearwin Sportster '8500', 85 hp, cruise ~103 mph
(http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft%...0Sportster.htm)
Rearwin Speedster '6000C', 95 hp, cruise ~120 mph
(http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft%...0Speedster.htm)
Taylorcraft BC-12D, 65 hp, 90-100 mph
(http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft%...aylorcraft.htm)

That was fun. T cart is T-craft?



The Tcart used to cruise at 100 in real life on a Continental A-65.

I have flown several Coupes. Have yet to see 110 mph in level flight on any
of them!

Sometimes specifications are accurate, and sometimes they aren't! :-)

Highflyer
Highflight Aviation Services
Pinckneyville Airport, PJY

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WJRFlyBoy wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:09:09 -0400, Orval Fairbairn wrote:

4. Any where the residents don't OWN the runway.

Reasoning here?


I won't speak for Orval but I wouldn't buy such a lot because if the
owners don't own the runway who ever does could sell it out from under you
and you end up with a house with a big garage.

There can still be problems. We had one in Wisconsin where a lawyer bought
one of the lots. Built a nice house without a hangar. Then got the runway
shutdown because of noise!

It takes all kinds. Some of them are lawyers.

Highflyer

"WJRFlyBoy" wrote in message
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Or you could say "I never miss a landing" or any other level of irreality.
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Or you could say "miss a landing and kill the neighbor's kids" or any other
level of irreality.

By the way, I have not seen large numbers of children playing alongside the
runway at ANY airpark I have flown into. That is about as realistic as the
children playing on the interstates in the big cities.

Highflyer

Highflyer wrote:
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrote in message
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WJRFlyBoy wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:09:09 -0400, Orval Fairbairn wrote:
4. Any where the residents don't OWN the runway.
Reasoning here?

I won't speak for Orval but I wouldn't buy such a lot because if the
owners don't own the runway who ever does could sell it out from under you
and you end up with a house with a big garage.

There can still be problems. We had one in Wisconsin where a lawyer bought
one of the lots. Built a nice house without a hangar. Then got the runway
shutdown because of noise!

It takes all kinds. Some of them are lawyers.

Highflyer



Somebody needed better lawyers or better shotguns.

"Highflyer" wrote in message
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The Tcart used to cruise at 100 in real life on a Continental A-65.

I have flown several Coupes. Have yet to see 110 mph in level flight on
any of them!

Sometimes specifications are accurate, and sometimes they aren't! :-)

Highflyer
Highflight Aviation Services
Pinckneyville Airport, PJY


At one time, I marvelled at how much more capable so many older designs must
have been--and then I learned that some of those old factory specs were just
as imaginative as some of the earliest kits.

It was nearly as dissappointing as being a Democrat--or a Republican. :-(

Peter

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"WJRFlyBoy" wrote in message
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This got me thinking, a rudderless Ercoupe in a multi-directional
wind landing......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l2NJFrvYls

Do you (I) really want a home that close to a GA landing strip? Yet I
see megabuck homes in my neck of the woods

http://www.visualtour.com/shownp.asp?prt=85&t=1217861

http://preview.tinyurl.com/39avgz Use satellite mode

Am I missing something? Isn't this a bit off the safety charts?
--
Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either!


Cake with a 'coupe. Faster than any other equal powered production
plane...


No, it wasn't. not by a long shot.

Luscombe, Rearwin, T cart. All faster on the same horsepower.



Bertie


Ercoupe 415, 85 hp, cruise ~110 mph
(http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/airc...upe-415-g.html)
Luscombe 8F, 90 hp, cruise ~95 mph
(http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/airc...scombe-8a.html)
Rearwin Sportster '8500', 85 hp, cruise ~103 mph
(http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft%...0Sportster.htm)
Rearwin Speedster '6000C', 95 hp, cruise ~120 mph
(http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft%...0Speedster.htm)
Taylorcraft BC-12D, 65 hp, 90-100 mph
(http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft%...aylorcraft.htm)

That was fun. T cart is T-craft?




The Tcart used to cruise at 100 in real life on a Continental A-65.

I have flown several Coupes. Have yet to see 110 mph in level flight on any
of them!

Sometimes specifications are accurate, and sometimes they aren't! :-)

Highflyer
Highflight Aviation Services
Pinckneyville Airport, PJY



All it takes is a little collar on the pitot tube (and a bit of tweaking
the position)

Dan wrote:
And this video is remarkable because...?


It is a really pretty Ercoupe! I think living that close to a GA
landing strip is the way to go (we break ground this week!!)
www.longislandairpark.com Phase II lot 12.

Margy


WJRFlyBoy wrote:

This got me thinking, a rudderless Ercoupe in a multi-directional wind
landing......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l2NJFrvYls

Do you (I) really want a home that close to a GA landing strip? Yet I see
megabuck homes in my neck of the woods