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Old October 12th 03, 06:51 AM
John Cook
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Default Singapore down selects three fighters...

Singapore has down selected the F15, Rafale and the Eurofighter
typhoon for their next generation fighter....

The F16, F18E/f and Sukhoi Su-30MK were rejected.


"Asked how the final three were chosen, Mindef said it had looked at
several factors like operational performance, the availability of
spares, the cost of operating the aircraft over its lifespan and the
potential for it to be upgraded."

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Old October 13th 03, 01:15 AM
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On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:51:43 +1000, John Cook wrote:
Singapore has down selected the F15, Rafale and the Eurofighter
typhoon for their next generation fighter....

The F16, F18E/f and Sukhoi Su-30MK were rejected.


I'm surprised the F-16 was ruled out, sincre Singapore already
operates that plane.

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Old October 13th 03, 04:27 AM
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It is all about putting all your eggs in one basket. Everybody knows
about the Congress idiosyncrasies. Not to mention there may be plans to
do some kind of upgrade from type 52 F16 to near type 60.

IMHO, it is going to be a tossup between Rafale and the Typhoon. F15 is
too complicated and the road map is too short to operate. But Rafale
programme needs more money and the Typhoon roll out rate isn't exactly
fast.

Pity the people that have to make the decision. One thing that is for
sure, it is going to worth the admission tickets to Asian Aeropspace
2004. All down selects are required to do demos. Quite an event since
no one in this side of the ocean has seen a real Typhoon.

phil hunt wrote:

On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:51:43 +1000, John Cook wrote:


Singapore has down selected the F15, Rafale and the Eurofighter
typhoon for their next generation fighter....

The F16, F18E/f and Sukhoi Su-30MK were rejected.



I'm surprised the F-16 was ruled out, sincre Singapore already
operates that plane.




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Old October 13th 03, 04:29 AM
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AL wrote:
It is all about putting all your eggs in one basket. Everybody knows
about the Congress idiosyncrasies. Not to mention there may be plans to
do some kind of upgrade from type 52 F16 to near type 60.

IMHO, it is going to be a tossup between Rafale and the Typhoon. F15 is
too complicated and the road map is too short to operate.


I think the F-15 has a very good chance. Bear in mind their next door
neighbours are getting Su-30s.

Cheers
David

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Old October 13th 03, 04:58 AM
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:27:11 +0800, AL wrote:
It is all about putting all your eggs in one basket. Everybody knows
about the Congress idiosyncrasies.


"Everyone"? I don't.

Not to mention there may be plans to
do some kind of upgrade from type 52 F16 to near type 60.

IMHO, it is going to be a tossup between Rafale and the Typhoon. F15 is
too complicated and the road map is too short to operate. But Rafale
programme needs more money and the Typhoon roll out rate isn't exactly
fast.

Pity the people that have to make the decision. One thing that is for
sure, it is going to worth the admission tickets to Asian Aeropspace
2004. All down selects are required to do demos. Quite an event since
no one in this side of the ocean has seen a real Typhoon.


So when will the final decision be made?

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Old October 13th 03, 04:59 AM
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:29:56 +1000, David Bromage wrote:
AL wrote:
It is all about putting all your eggs in one basket. Everybody knows
about the Congress idiosyncrasies. Not to mention there may be plans to
do some kind of upgrade from type 52 F16 to near type 60.

IMHO, it is going to be a tossup between Rafale and the Typhoon. F15 is
too complicated and the road map is too short to operate.


I think the F-15 has a very good chance. Bear in mind their next door
neighbours are getting Su-30s.


If the want a counter to the Su-30, wouldn't something more modern
than the F-15 be approprate?

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people who openly support the RIAA" -- comment on Wikipedia
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Old October 13th 03, 05:58 AM
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phil hunt wrote:
If the want a counter to the Su-30, wouldn't something more modern
than the F-15 be approprate?


How about an F-15K?

Cheers
David

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Old October 13th 03, 05:59 AM
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I was part of the Singapore eval last year of the Strike Eagle, and they
aren't really keen on having a 2 seat fighter. They had some very
interesting philosophies about what they'd do with the rear cockpit.


"David Bromage" wrote in message
.. .
phil hunt wrote:
If the want a counter to the Su-30, wouldn't something more modern
than the F-15 be approprate?


How about an F-15K?

Cheers
David



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Old October 13th 03, 08:39 AM
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If the F-15 isn't a likely contender, then yes it comes down to the
Rafale v Typhoon. At the risk of starting another "my plane is bigger
than your plane" flamewar, which of these two would you rather have if
your neighbour is getting Su-30s in 2-3 years?

Cheers
David

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Old October 13th 03, 01:07 PM
John Cook
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On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:59:56 -0800, "Rick & Andrea"
wrote:

I was part of the Singapore eval last year of the Strike Eagle, and they
aren't really keen on having a 2 seat fighter. They had some very
interesting philosophies about what they'd do with the rear cockpit.


What were some of the things they were looking for, if you can tell
us...

just interested ;-)

"David Bromage" wrote in message
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phil hunt wrote:
If the want a counter to the Su-30, wouldn't something more modern
than the F-15 be approprate?


How about an F-15K?

Cheers
David



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