Rolls Royce Meteor V 2 engine from a Centurion tank

Can anyone tell me how similar these engines were to the Merlin? I know they
were a derivative but being intended for ground use may be so totally
different as to be useless for any aviation application.

Why do I ask? An acquaintance has just acquired a complete Meteor engine and
is looking to sell it off. I don't believe he wants to profit from it beyond
recovering costs. If the engine is valueless or he can't find a buyer there
is a possibility (slim) it may be scrapped. However, it would be better if
someone would purchase the engine and put it back into one of it's intended
applications.

If anyone is interested in the engine, even for parts, please post a
response here and I will pass it on to him.

For those interested, the engine is in Canada (despite me being in
Australia).

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Oops V12 not V2.

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"The Raven" wrote in message
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Can anyone tell me how similar these engines were to the Merlin? I know
they
were a derivative but being intended for ground use may be so totally
different as to be useless for any aviation application.


I think thats probably true, they certainly didnt have the supercharger
fit the aero engine had

Why do I ask? An acquaintance has just acquired a complete Meteor engine
and
is looking to sell it off. I don't believe he wants to profit from it
beyond
recovering costs. If the engine is valueless or he can't find a buyer
there
is a possibility (slim) it may be scrapped. However, it would be better if
someone would purchase the engine and put it back into one of it's
intended
applications.

If anyone is interested in the engine, even for parts, please post a
response here and I will pass it on to him.

For those interested, the engine is in Canada (despite me being in
Australia).


There is almost certainly a market for it, there are a number of
Centurions owned by collectors

see http://www.milweb.net/go/select/sales.htm

Keith

"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message
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"The Raven" wrote in message
...
Can anyone tell me how similar these engines were to the Merlin? I know
they
were a derivative but being intended for ground use may be so totally
different as to be useless for any aviation application.


I think thats probably true, they certainly didnt have the supercharger
fit the aero engine had

Absolutely. I saw one up close (on a stand) but they weren't starting it at
the time. Hard to recognise it as an aero engine in caterpillar yellow.


Why do I ask? An acquaintance has just acquired a complete Meteor engine
and
is looking to sell it off. I don't believe he wants to profit from it
beyond
recovering costs. If the engine is valueless or he can't find a buyer
there
is a possibility (slim) it may be scrapped. However, it would be better
if
someone would purchase the engine and put it back into one of it's
intended
applications.

If anyone is interested in the engine, even for parts, please post a
response here and I will pass it on to him.

For those interested, the engine is in Canada (despite me being in
Australia).


There is almost certainly a market for it, there are a number of
Centurions owned by collectors

see http://www.milweb.net/go/select/sales.htm

Thanks, will look into it. Hopefully someone in Canada is interested.


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The Raven wrote:

"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message
...

"The Raven" wrote in message
...
Can anyone tell me how similar these engines were to the Merlin? I know
they
were a derivative but being intended for ground use may be so totally
different as to be useless for any aviation application.


I think thats probably true, they certainly didnt have the supercharger
fit the aero engine had

Absolutely. I saw one up close (on a stand) but they weren't starting it at
the time. Hard to recognise it as an aero engine in caterpillar yellow.


Why do I ask? An acquaintance has just acquired a complete Meteor engine
and
is looking to sell it off. I don't believe he wants to profit from it
beyond
recovering costs. If the engine is valueless or he can't find a buyer
there
is a possibility (slim) it may be scrapped. However, it would be better
if
someone would purchase the engine and put it back into one of it's
intended
applications.

If anyone is interested in the engine, even for parts, please post a
response here and I will pass it on to him.

For those interested, the engine is in Canada (despite me being in
Australia).


There is almost certainly a market for it, there are a number of
Centurions owned by collectors

see http://www.milweb.net/go/select/sales.htm

Thanks, will look into it. Hopefully someone in Canada is interested.

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The Raven
http://www.80scartoons.co.uk/batfinkquote.mp3
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** since August 15th 2000.

Just an aside..............

I used to work for the UK MOD as a Civil Servant - one job I had was in NATO
Codification - the allocation of parts numbers to NATO Stock items.

We were told the story about the reasons behind the drive to standardise
parts/stock numbers between the NATO allies - and even between the UK Services.

In the olden days if a Royal Navy Landrover broke down or had a puncture outside
an Army barracks - it could not get spare parts at the Army stores - the part
numbering systems were completely different!!

The Army landrover rode on Tubes, Inner & Covers, Outer, the RN landrover
probably just had Tires and Inner Tubes!!!

Meanwhile - back at RR Meteor/Merlins.........

Apparently during the Korean war a USAF Sqn of P-51's were grounded due to a
shortage of spare parts for their Packard Merlins.

Over the next hill was an Australian army tank battalion - equipped with British
Centurion tanks.

The Centurions had RR Meteor engines - and if they had only had a common parts
nomenclature/numbering system, the Aussie could have supplied the Yanks with
parts!

It is probably an apocryphal story - and certainly exagerated, but a good one
nonetheless.

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Ken Duffey - Flanker Freak & Russian Aviation Enthusiast
Flankers Website - http://www.flankers.co.uk/
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Wasn't the Merlin an inline piston engine and the meteor engine a gas
turbine engine.the two have to be totally dissimilar....mjh

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"The Raven" wrote in message
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Can anyone tell me how similar these engines were to the Merlin? I know
they
were a derivative but being intended for ground use may be so totally
different as to be useless for any aviation application.

Why do I ask? An acquaintance has just acquired a complete Meteor engine
and
is looking to sell it off. I don't believe he wants to profit from it
beyond
recovering costs. If the engine is valueless or he can't find a buyer
there
is a possibility (slim) it may be scrapped. However, it would be better if
someone would purchase the engine and put it back into one of it's
intended
applications.

If anyone is interested in the engine, even for parts, please post a
response here and I will pass it on to him.

For those interested, the engine is in Canada (despite me being in
Australia).

--
The Raven
http://www.80scartoons.co.uk/batfinkquote.mp3
** President of the ozemail.* and uunet.* NG's
** since August 15th 2000.

"Mike Hide" wrote in message
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Wasn't the Merlin an inline piston engine and the meteor engine a gas
turbine engine.the two have to be totally dissimilar....mjh

The Rolls Royce Merlin (including all license built models) was a V12
engine. Used in such aircraft as the Lancaster and P-51 Mustang.

The Rover Meteor engine is a derivative of that engine and saw application
in the Centurion tank.

I think you're associating the name Meteor with the Gloster Meteor jet
aircraft (which had turbines).


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** since August 15th 2000.

According to a website on PT boats that I found by Google,
the PT 7X series boats used a Packard V12 that was a direct
descendant of the Lancaster Airplane engine. They made a point
of saying that it wasn't a Merlin, or a Packard-Merlin.

Looks like there were tanks, boats and airplanes that shared a
related V12 engine.

-Chuck Harris


The Raven wrote:
"Mike Hide" wrote in message
news:b0jXb.308382$xy6.1503503@attbi_s02...

Wasn't the Merlin an inline piston engine and the meteor engine a gas
turbine engine.the two have to be totally dissimilar....mjh


The Rolls Royce Merlin (including all license built models) was a V12
engine. Used in such aircraft as the Lancaster and P-51 Mustang.

The Rover Meteor engine is a derivative of that engine and saw application
in the Centurion tank.

I think you're associating the name Meteor with the Gloster Meteor jet
aircraft (which had turbines).

In article ,
Chuck Harris writes:
According to a website on PT boats that I found by Google,
the PT 7X series boats used a Packard V12 that was a direct
descendant of the Lancaster Airplane engine. They made a point
of saying that it wasn't a Merlin, or a Packard-Merlin.

They were pPackard V-12s, and derived from airplane engines, but not
Merlins. The Packard PT boat engines were derivatives of the Packard
A-1500 V-12s built in the 1920s.

I think some RAF Crashboats _did_ use the Meteor, though.
Certainly some, in the 1950s used Rolls Griffons.

--
Pete Stickney
A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many
bad measures. -- Daniel Webster

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 08:38:56 -0500, Chuck Harris wrote:

According to a website on PT boats that I found by Google,
the PT 7X series boats used a Packard V12 that was a direct
descendant of the Lancaster Airplane engine. They made a point
of saying that it wasn't a Merlin, or a Packard-Merlin.

Looks like there were tanks, boats and airplanes that shared a
related V12 engine.

-Chuck Harris

I recall seeing some of those bare cylinder blocks at NSC Subic. They were
a beautiful piece of Aluminum.

Al Minyard