Crash near Miami, FL

A Chalks Airways Grumman Mallard (Turbine Mallard) crashed during takeoff
near Miami, FL today.

Watching TV coverage of the aftermatch it's certain two things will happen
after such an event. The TV networks will report a fiery explosion before
the crash and Mary Shiavo will be on-air demonstrating she's an ignorant, uh
what's the word, media whore? The TV networks would be better served just
directly airing the first homeless guy they can find.

Hey did you know that according to MSNBC the Mallard is a "hydroplane". All
the years I dealt with them I thought they were seaplanes.
--
Scott

tscottme wrote:
A Chalks Airways Grumman Mallard (Turbine Mallard) crashed during takeoff
near Miami, FL today.


I thought they flew SA-16s (Grumman Albatrosses).



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Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message
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tscottme wrote:
A Chalks Airways Grumman Mallard (Turbine Mallard) crashed during
takeoff
near Miami, FL today.


I thought they flew SA-16s (Grumman Albatrosses).


No, Mallards, smaller than the Albatross. I believe they have/had one or
more Albatross, and I may have fueled it once prior to a passenger pickup at
FLL. However that was more than 10 years ago and I may be confusing Chalks'
Albatross for one belonging to a private owner.

Each and every Chalks employee I ever dealt with were just as nice as you
would hope. Heck, even most of the passenegers were above average in the
nice department.

--
Scott

tscottme wrote:
A Chalks Airways Grumman Mallard (Turbine Mallard) crashed during takeoff
near Miami, FL today.

Watching TV coverage of the aftermatch it's certain two things will happen
after such an event. The TV networks will report a fiery explosion before
the crash and Mary Shiavo will be on-air demonstrating she's an ignorant, uh
what's the word, media whore? The TV networks would be better served just
directly airing the first homeless guy they can find.

Hey did you know that according to MSNBC the Mallard is a "hydroplane". All
the years I dealt with them I thought they were seaplanes.

Then again, maybe someone will focus on the inherent danger of flying
paying passengers in an airplane that can't maintain a takeoff flight
path with one engine inoperative.

Tim wrote:
Then again, maybe someone will focus on the inherent danger of flying
paying passengers in an airplane that can't maintain a takeoff flight path
with one engine inoperative.

Not a problem when you're taking off on an infinitely long runway as they
were.

Gees, I hate it when infants, kids, babies die. Sad...

Hilton

Reports and photographs indicate that there was a fire and
fuel explosion and one wing was blown off the airplane.
Kind of hard to fly anywhere with only half an airplane.

My guess at this point, a fuel line leak in the nacelle and
the fuel mixture in the wing root exploded.

Normal procedure for any seaplane is to land (is that
water?) but the Grumman Albatross (the Mallard is smaller)
with the turboprop engines flies just fine on one engine.


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

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"Hilton" wrote in message
nk.net...
| Tim wrote:
| Then again, maybe someone will focus on the inherent
danger of flying
| paying passengers in an airplane that can't maintain a
takeoff flight path
| with one engine inoperative.
|
| Not a problem when you're taking off on an infinitely long
runway as they
| were.
|
| Gees, I hate it when infants, kids, babies die. Sad...
|
| Hilton
|
|

Jim Macklin wrote:

Reports and photographs indicate that there was a fire and
fuel explosion and one wing was blown off the airplane.
Kind of hard to fly anywhere with only half an airplane.

My guess at this point, a fuel line leak in the nacelle and
the fuel mixture in the wing root exploded.

Normal procedure for any seaplane is to land (is that
water?) but the Grumman Albatross (the Mallard is smaller)
with the turboprop engines flies just fine on one engine.


Engine failure was pure speculation on my part. An in-flight explosion
brings to mind all kinds of ugly possibililites.

wrote in message news:ffVpf.1989$LB5.1838@fed1read04...
Jim Macklin wrote:


Engine failure was pure speculation on my part. An in-flight explosion
brings to mind all kinds of ugly possibililites.

While it appears there may be fire/explosion prior to impact this time. The
truth is that in almost every instance of a witnessed aircraft crash there
will be eyewitnesses reporting a pre-impact fire or explosion, even when
that didn't happen.

For example an Avianca 707 crashed in NY due to fuel exhaustion. There was
no evidence of even a post crash fire. The earliest eyemitness accounts
reported the aircraft variously as on fire or exploding and then falling.
As often as not witness reports of fire are an artifact of emotion of
witnessing a traumatic event.

People could witness a glider crash into a lake and someone would report it
exploded and burned before impact.

--
Scott

Hilton wrote:
Tim wrote:

Then again, maybe someone will focus on the inherent danger of flying
paying passengers in an airplane that can't maintain a takeoff flight path
with one engine inoperative.


Not a problem when you're taking off on an infinitely long runway as they
were.

What's an infinitely long runway?

I don't know what happened here, but there have been plenty of takeoff,
engine failure crashes that occurred beyong the airport boundaries, even
with a 12,000' long runway.

KMIA has had more than its share of takeoff accidents because of all the
junk birds that operate to and from there to places south.

Gees, I hate it when infants, kids, babies die. Sad...

Yep! Or, for that matter, any innocent passenger who doesn't know what
they are climbing into.

wrote in message news:ceVpf.1987$LB5.1444@fed1read04...

What's an infinitely long runway?

That reminds me of the pithy old saying, to the effect that if someone
could build a runway extending all the way around the world,
then Grumman could build an airplane that would need all of it.