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Old November 25th 16, 11:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Soartech
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Default Sale today on 12 Volt flexible solar panel

Glue on your tail boom and never charge your battery again.
https://www.solarblvd.com/product_in...oducts_id=3082
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Old November 25th 16, 11:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Andrzej Kobus
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Default Sale today on 12 Volt flexible solar panel

On Friday, November 25, 2016 at 6:10:24 PM UTC-5, Soartech wrote:
Glue on your tail boom and never charge your battery again.
https://www.solarblvd.com/product_in...oducts_id=3082


I would not do this. The temperature that will be generated under the panel is going to be very high, potentially weakening the structure. Those who glued flexible panels on top of their RVs know what I am talking about. I have seen melted flexible panels.
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Old November 26th 16, 03:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Sale today on 12 Volt flexible solar panel

On Friday, November 25, 2016 at 3:30:23 PM UTC-8, Andrzej Kobus wrote:
On Friday, November 25, 2016 at 6:10:24 PM UTC-5, Soartech wrote:
Glue on your tail boom and never charge your battery again.
https://www.solarblvd.com/product_in...oducts_id=3082


I would not do this. The temperature that will be generated under the panel is going to be very high, potentially weakening the structure. Those who glued flexible panels on top of their RVs know what I am talking about. I have seen melted flexible panels.


This panel would be too large to put on a tail boom anyway (despite the quoted dimensions of 46x21mm!). They also imply that you can't bend this thing in an extreme way. On the other hand, the $/W is very good if you can use it in some non-aviation application.

Tom
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Old December 1st 16, 01:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Soartech
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Default Sale today on 12 Volt flexible solar panel

There is a huge difference in tempertures between an RV roof and a sailplane tailboom. I have had a solar panel glued on my tail boom for 2 years and it is showing no signs of melting or discoloration of the glass beneath it. Oh, and I NEVER have to remove my battery and charge it!

I would not do this. The temperature that will be generated under the panel is going to be very high, potentially weakening the structure. Those who glued flexible panels on top of their RVs know what I am talking about. I have seen melted flexible panels.


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Old December 1st 16, 01:47 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Andrzej Kobus
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Default Sale today on 12 Volt flexible solar panel

On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 8:34:25 PM UTC-5, Soartech wrote:
There is a huge difference in tempertures between an RV roof and a sailplane tailboom. I have had a solar panel glued on my tail boom for 2 years and it is showing no signs of melting or discoloration of the glass beneath it. Oh, and I NEVER have to remove my battery and charge it!

I would not do this. The temperature that will be generated under the panel is going to be very high, potentially weakening the structure. Those who glued flexible panels on top of their RVs know what I am talking about. I have seen melted flexible panels.


The high temp is not the result of a structure under the panel but the fact that the panel itself gets very hot in the sun transferring the heat to the structure below.
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Old December 1st 16, 03:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Sale today on 12 Volt flexible solar panel

Lots of gliders come from the factory with solar panels already attached
to their backs, including my Stemme. Why haven't the tail booms fallen
off yet?

On 11/30/2016 6:47 PM, Andrzej Kobus wrote:
On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 8:34:25 PM UTC-5, Soartech wrote:
There is a huge difference in tempertures between an RV roof and a sailplane tailboom. I have had a solar panel glued on my tail boom for 2 years and it is showing no signs of melting or discoloration of the glass beneath it. Oh, and I NEVER have to remove my battery and charge it!

I would not do this. The temperature that will be generated under the panel is going to be very high, potentially weakening the structure. Those who glued flexible panels on top of their RVs know what I am talking about. I have seen melted flexible panels.

The high temp is not the result of a structure under the panel but the fact that the panel itself gets very hot in the sun transferring the heat to the structure below.


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Old December 1st 16, 05:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Sale today on 12 Volt flexible solar panel

Aerodynamic cooling. Turbulent air absorbs heat better than laminar.
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Old December 1st 16, 05:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Andrzej Kobus
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Default Sale today on 12 Volt flexible solar panel

On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 10:47:09 AM UTC-5, Dan Marotta wrote:
Lots of gliders come from the factory with solar panels already attached
to their backs, including my Stemme. Why haven't the tail booms fallen
off yet?

On 11/30/2016 6:47 PM, Andrzej Kobus wrote:
On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 8:34:25 PM UTC-5, Soartech wrote:
There is a huge difference in tempertures between an RV roof and a sailplane tailboom. I have had a solar panel glued on my tail boom for 2 years and it is showing no signs of melting or discoloration of the glass beneath it. Oh, and I NEVER have to remove my battery and charge it!

I would not do this. The temperature that will be generated under the panel is going to be very high, potentially weakening the structure. Those who glued flexible panels on top of their RVs know what I am talking about.. I have seen melted flexible panels.

The high temp is not the result of a structure under the panel but the fact that the panel itself gets very hot in the sun transferring the heat to the structure below.


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The heat transfer properties of the panel play a role here. How much is reflected back vs. absorbed and transferred to the structure below. The type of the panel matters. Cooling while flying is great but if you have a glider out in Nevada sun all day it might be too much. Glider manufacturers know what they are doing. Buying some panel and putting it on a glider without discussing with the manufacturer might not be a great idea.
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Old November 26th 16, 03:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Eric Greenwell[_4_]
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Default Sale today on 12 Volt flexible solar panel

Soartech wrote on 11/25/2016 3:10 PM:
Glue on your tail boom and never charge your battery again.
https://www.solarblvd.com/product_in...oducts_id=3082


At 21" x 46" x 0.125", it's too big and probably too heavy. We need
smaller panels to replace the no-longer-available STrobls.
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Old November 26th 16, 09:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Sale today on 12 Volt flexible solar panel

Closest I found was www.lemo-solar.de
 




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