Hope U.S. soldiers don't get railroaded

"B2431" wrote in message
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From: "Kevin Brooks"

"George Z. Bush" wrote in message
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Tank Fixer wrote:
In article ,
on Mon, 31 May 2004 18:59:55 -0800,
Abrigon Gusiq attempted to say .....

General in Japan, I forget his name, proved that even if you are not
in
command of troops, they are in your area, you are responsible for
them..

Something to do with command intent or ..


Gen Yamashima sp
Manila, Philippines 1945
Special Naval Landing Troops ran amoke killing civilians.
He was tried and hung post war.

That'd have been Gen. Yama****a and Gen. Homma as well. Along with
acknowledging their responsibility for the action of the troops under
their
command even if those actions had not been reported to them,
Yama****a's
major
crime seems to have been that he'd whipped McArthur's ass in the
Phillippines
at the outset of the war with far less troops than McArthur had at his
disposal.

George/Hal, your grasp of military history is about as keen as your grasp
of
what constitutes a violation of UN Res 687-- Yama****a was nowhere *near*
the PI "at the outset of the war".

Brooks

Wasn't he on his way towards booting the Brits out of Singapore at the
time?

Yep.

Brooks


Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Howard Berkowitz wrote in message ...
In article ,
wrote:

In article ,
on Mon, 31 May 2004 18:59:55 -0800,
Abrigon Gusiq attempted to say .....

General in Japan, I forget his name, proved that even if you are not in
command of troops, they are in your area, you are responsible for
them..

Something to do with command intent or ..


Gen Yamashima sp
Manila, Philippines 1945
Special Naval Landing Troops ran amoke killing civilians.
He was tried and hung post war.

And, in my opinion, a travesty of justice. Yama****a had declared Manila
an open city, not to be defended and risk civilians. RADM Iwakune
(IIRC), the SNLF commander, "declined to obey" and made a battleground
of Manila. Yama****a had no means to compel obedience, although he
generally tried to keep order with respect to Filipino citizens that
could be affected by troops under his control.

There are some questions about Yama****a's command in Malaya, but it is
fairly clear that he tried to protect Filipinos. MacArthur wouldn't
allow Yama****a and Homma even to be sent to the biased Tokyo trial,
but essentially held his own tribunal with a foregone conclusion.

If the doctrine by which Yama****a was executed were applied
consistently, Westmoreland would at least have been in for the same
prison term as Calley.


How long did Calley spend behind bars? I don't think Calley actually
did any prison time. He got clean away with it.

On 7 Jun 2004 12:48:53 -0700,
(Ярослава) wrote:

Howard Berkowitz wrote in message ...
In article ,
wrote:

In article ,
on Mon, 31 May 2004 18:59:55 -0800,
Abrigon Gusiq attempted to say .....

General in Japan, I forget his name, proved that even if you are not in
command of troops, they are in your area, you are responsible for
them..

Something to do with command intent or ..


Gen Yamashima sp
Manila, Philippines 1945
Special Naval Landing Troops ran amoke killing civilians.
He was tried and hung post war.

And, in my opinion, a travesty of justice. Yama****a had declared Manila
an open city, not to be defended and risk civilians. RADM Iwakune
(IIRC), the SNLF commander, "declined to obey" and made a battleground
of Manila. Yama****a had no means to compel obedience, although he
generally tried to keep order with respect to Filipino citizens that
could be affected by troops under his control.

There are some questions about Yama****a's command in Malaya, but it is
fairly clear that he tried to protect Filipinos. MacArthur wouldn't
allow Yama****a and Homma even to be sent to the biased Tokyo trial,
but essentially held his own tribunal with a foregone conclusion.

If the doctrine by which Yama****a was executed were applied
consistently, Westmoreland would at least have been in for the same
prison term as Calley.


How long did Calley spend behind bars? I don't think Calley actually
did any prison time. He got clean away with it.

This is the best i could find on short search

From
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/proj...calleyhtml.htm

In the end, he only served only days in Fort Leavenworth, before
being transferred back to Fort Benning, where he was placed under
house arrest. His sentence was repeatedly reduced. Finally, he
was pardoned by President Nixon. He was paroled in November,
1974.


Peter Skelton