"Tombstone" agency splitting hairs again

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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you just blamed Mexican culture.

Latino?

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| That would be the opposite of machismo.
|
| Not everything can be blamed on culture.

An individual's approach to life is reflected in their philosophy.

For groups, it their culture.

Just as some individuals prosper, live well, etc., and some aren't worth the
gallon of gas it would take to blow them up, the same holds for a culture.

I leave it to you all to figure out the characteristics.

yep, that is the one.



"BillyJack" wrote in message
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| It was actually a Columbian airliner
| Running on fumes and augured in
| I remember that one
|
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| you just blamed Mexican culture.
|
|
|
|
| "Jose" wrote in message
| om...
| | This was clearly a machismo thing.
| |
| | Was it?
| |
| | Could it also have been a timidity thing? In this
| country, the pilot(s)
| | in command has the absolute final say on what goes on
in
| the plane.
| | It's even written into the FARs. This might not be
true
| in the other
| | countries. For example (I know, not a parallel), I'm
told
| by pilots who
| | once flew there that in Mexico, flights have to be
| dispatched by a
| | military commander.
| |
| | These kinds of differences will manifest themselves in
| training and
| | attitude in the cockpit. They may have simply been
| "afraid of the
| | anticipated mountain of paperwork" not realizing (deep
| down) that
| | nothing like that would occur in this country for
| declaring an emergency
| | and doing whatever was necessary to meet the
emergency.
| |
| | That would be the opposite of machismo.
| |
| | Not everything can be blamed on culture.
| |
| | Jose
| | --
| | "Never trust anything that can think for itself, if
you
| can't see where
| | it keeps its brain." (chapter 10 of book 3 - Harry
| Potter).
| | for Email, make the obvious change in the address.
|
|

Maybe even Spanish. And how much Spanish culture is Arab?
This could go on a long time.

Our Puritan culture makes nudity very double-edged. On one
hand women's breast are to be covered and on the other, they
are objects of great interest. In other parts of the world
breasts are not an issue.


"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| ...
| you just blamed Mexican culture.
|
| Latino?
|
| |
| | That would be the opposite of machismo.
| |
| | Not everything can be blamed on culture.
|
| An individual's approach to life is reflected in their
philosophy.
|
| For groups, it their culture.
|
| Just as some individuals prosper, live well, etc., and
some aren't worth the
| gallon of gas it would take to blow them up, the same
holds for a culture.
|
| I leave it to you all to figure out the characteristics.
|
|

you just blamed Mexican culture.

No, I used one example with which I was familiar (Mexican Law) to
illustrate that something that looks like machismo could actually be its
opposite, and also to illustrate that what looks like culture may
actually be something else (legality).

The incident in question did not involve (AFAIK) Mexican pilots, they
were from a different country.

Jose
--
"Never trust anything that can think for itself, if you can't see where
it keeps its brain." (chapter 10 of book 3 - Harry Potter).
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

An individual's approach to life is reflected in their philosophy.
For groups, it their culture.

Philosophy and culture are not the be-all and end-all you make it seem.
What makes people =individual= is how they differ from each other, and
from whatever cultural stereotypes you measure by. The Columbian
airliner was flown by an individual, not by a culture.

Jose
--
"Never trust anything that can think for itself, if you can't see where
it keeps its brain." (chapter 10 of book 3 - Harry Potter).
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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yep, that is the one.


Maybe this one? http://www.joesharkey.com (the reporter aboard the Legacy
jet).



"BillyJack" wrote in message
...
| It was actually a Columbian airliner
| Running on fumes and augured in
| I remember that one
|
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| you just blamed Mexican culture.
|
|
|
|
| "Jose" wrote in message
| om...
| | This was clearly a machismo thing.
| |
| | Was it?
| |
| | Could it also have been a timidity thing? In this
| country, the pilot(s)
| | in command has the absolute final say on what goes on
in
| the plane.
| | It's even written into the FARs. This might not be
true
| in the other
| | countries. For example (I know, not a parallel), I'm
told
| by pilots who
| | once flew there that in Mexico, flights have to be
| dispatched by a
| | military commander.
| |
| | These kinds of differences will manifest themselves in
| training and
| | attitude in the cockpit. They may have simply been
| "afraid of the
| | anticipated mountain of paperwork" not realizing (deep
| down) that
| | nothing like that would occur in this country for
| declaring an emergency
| | and doing whatever was necessary to meet the
emergency.
| |
| | That would be the opposite of machismo.
| |
| | Not everything can be blamed on culture.
| |
| | Jose
| | --
| | "Never trust anything that can think for itself, if
you
| can't see where
| | it keeps its brain." (chapter 10 of book 3 - Harry
| Potter).
| | for Email, make the obvious change in the address.
|
|

What was wrong with my question? It was grammatically correct and
succinct.... WTF is your problem and who asked you to chime in anyway? Back
in your cage monkey.


"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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"Barney Rubble" wrote in message
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Come on spill the beans, which race are you disparaging, based on your
entirely scientific study?

Whoever they are, they probably have better comprehension of the English
language than you do. (It wouldn't take much)



"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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I'd like to see a study that breaks down the involvement of
US citizen pilots and foreign pilots in those incursions and
near mid airs. It has been my experience that pilots from
certain places in the world have a very casual attitude
about such things.

"Barney Rubble" wrote in message
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What was wrong with my question?

Other than it didn'tm in any way, address his actual remarks...?

It was grammatically correct and succinct....

It had no relation to what he said. IOW, it was a stream of words with no
bearing to the point he made.

WTF is your problem and who asked you to chime in anyway?

If you don't want reponses from the public, post to private email.

As I said, pay a bit more attention to your reading compre

Back in your cage monkey.

Head out of your ass, SFB. I've got better things to do than give you
lessons that you should have picked up in elementary school.



"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
...

"Barney Rubble" wrote in message
...
Come on spill the beans, which race are you disparaging, based on your
entirely scientific study?

Whoever they are, they probably have better comprehension of the English
language than you do. (It wouldn't take much)



"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
...
I'd like to see a study that breaks down the involvement of
US citizen pilots and foreign pilots in those incursions and
near mid airs. It has been my experience that pilots from
certain places in the world have a very casual attitude
about such things.

On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 06:05:58 -0700, "Matt Barrow"
wrote:


"Barney Rubble" wrote in message
.. .
Come on spill the beans, which race are you disparaging, based on your
entirely scientific study?

Whoever they are, they probably have better comprehension of the English
language than you do. (It wouldn't take much)

As I recall, according to the NTSB one of the contributing factors was
a lack of English language skills and quite likely not knowing they
should have declared a urgent fuel situation before it became an
emergency situation before it became a messy situation.





"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
...
I'd like to see a study that breaks down the involvement of
US citizen pilots and foreign pilots in those incursions and
near mid airs. It has been my experience that pilots from
certain places in the world have a very casual attitude
about such things.


Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com