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Old February 1st 04, 06:20 PM
Bob Gardner
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That's known as cutting off your nose to spite your face. The value of what
you will miss far exceeds any perceived gain.

Bob Gardner

"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
k.net...
I used to subscribe to IFR until I realized that they offered a much

better
rate to new subscribers than to existing ones. After realizing this, my
four year old decided to subscribe :-). Today he recieved a solicitation
from another aviation magazine. Obviously they sold his (and my) name and
address. I always check the little box indicating that I don't want my
information shared and I don't want to recieve any offers. I will never
subscribe to any Belvoire publication again.

Just had to vent after calling a credit card company and telling them not

to
send me any more ot their stupid balance tranfer checks. It was the third
time I called them. I am in the national opt out list for all

pre-approved
credit and I still get at least two "offers" a day. I guess that Congress
is so busy spending our hard earned money developing rainforests in Iowa

and
subsidized rail to Disneyland that they don't have time for legislation

that
ordinary people really care about.

Mike
MU-2




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Old February 2nd 04, 12:36 AM
Mike Rapoport
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I'm not sure exactly what gainI'll be missing. Every spring there are
articles in every aviation mag about flying when there is convective
weather. After flying a few years and being exposed to 100 such articles
admonishing us not to fly into a thunderstorm, what is gained be reading one
more? Anyway, it is my six year old who isn't going to subscribe

Mike
MU-2
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"Bob Gardner" wrote in message
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That's known as cutting off your nose to spite your face. The value of

what
you will miss far exceeds any perceived gain.

Bob Gardner

"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
k.net...
I used to subscribe to IFR until I realized that they offered a much

better
rate to new subscribers than to existing ones. After realizing this, my
four year old decided to subscribe :-). Today he recieved a

solicitation
from another aviation magazine. Obviously they sold his (and my) name

and
address. I always check the little box indicating that I don't want my
information shared and I don't want to recieve any offers. I will never
subscribe to any Belvoire publication again.

Just had to vent after calling a credit card company and telling them

not
to
send me any more ot their stupid balance tranfer checks. It was the

third
time I called them. I am in the national opt out list for all

pre-approved
credit and I still get at least two "offers" a day. I guess that

Congress
is so busy spending our hard earned money developing rainforests in Iowa

and
subsidized rail to Disneyland that they don't have time for legislation

that
ordinary people really care about.

Mike
MU-2






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Old February 2nd 04, 02:34 AM
Dan Luke
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"Mike Rapoport" wrote:
' I'm not sure exactly what gainI'll be missing. Every spring there
are
articles in every aviation mag about flying when there is convective
weather. After flying a few years and being exposed to 100 such

articles
admonishing us not to fly into a thunderstorm, what is gained be

reading one
more?


I dunno, Mike - I think IFR is a cut above most of that stuff. I'm sure
I've found more real-world, useful stuff there than in the other mags.
It's funny, too.

Belvoir's subscription dept. irritates me, too, but not enough to dump
IFR.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM
(remove pants to reply by email)


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Old February 1st 04, 07:09 PM
Javier Henderson
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"Mike Rapoport" writes:

I used to subscribe to IFR until I realized that they offered a much better
rate to new subscribers than to existing ones. After realizing this, my
four year old decided to subscribe :-). Today he recieved a solicitation
from another aviation magazine. Obviously they sold his (and my) name and
address. I always check the little box indicating that I don't want my
information shared and I don't want to recieve any offers. I will never
subscribe to any Belvoire publication again.


May I suggest that you let them know why you won't buy their
products again, if you haven't already?

-jav
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Old February 1st 04, 08:43 PM
Jay Honeck
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May I suggest that you let them know why you won't buy their
products again, if you haven't already?


Better leave out the part about the 4-year old subscribing, however...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old February 2nd 04, 12:57 AM
Mike Rapoport
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Why?

Mike
MU-2


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:gydTb.203997$xy6.1049254@attbi_s02...
May I suggest that you let them know why you won't buy their
products again, if you haven't already?


Better leave out the part about the 4-year old subscribing, however...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"




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Old February 2nd 04, 04:19 PM
Dude
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Excellent point, if you dislike discriminatory pricing schemes, the best
thing you can do is point out how they really don't work.

If they don't understand you, ask them when they last bought a full fare
business ticket on a hub and spoke airline.


"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
ink.net...
Why?

Mike
MU-2


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:gydTb.203997$xy6.1049254@attbi_s02...
May I suggest that you let them know why you won't buy their
products again, if you haven't already?


Better leave out the part about the 4-year old subscribing, however...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"






  #8  
Old February 1st 04, 07:22 PM
Richard Hertz
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I just subscribed to the magazine after hearing raves about it. I am not
impressed with it.

- they declined to send me a prior month after I had ordered.
- their 2004 yearly compilation seems to suggest that people do some illegal
or questionable approached by not using procedure turns
- the quiz in the latest magazine had the localizer backcourse shaded
incorrectly
- not much of the content is what I expected given all the raves about the
magazine.

What is it about the magazine that people seem to find so wonderful?


"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
k.net...
I used to subscribe to IFR until I realized that they offered a much

better
rate to new subscribers than to existing ones. After realizing this, my
four year old decided to subscribe :-). Today he recieved a solicitation
from another aviation magazine. Obviously they sold his (and my) name and
address. I always check the little box indicating that I don't want my
information shared and I don't want to recieve any offers. I will never
subscribe to any Belvoire publication again.

Just had to vent after calling a credit card company and telling them not

to
send me any more ot their stupid balance tranfer checks. It was the third
time I called them. I am in the national opt out list for all

pre-approved
credit and I still get at least two "offers" a day. I guess that Congress
is so busy spending our hard earned money developing rainforests in Iowa

and
subsidized rail to Disneyland that they don't have time for legislation

that
ordinary people really care about.

Mike
MU-2




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Old February 1st 04, 07:58 PM
Tom Sixkiller
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"Richard Hertz" wrote in message
. net...
I just subscribed to the magazine after hearing raves about it. I am not
impressed with it.

- they declined to send me a prior month after I had ordered.
- their 2004 yearly compilation seems to suggest that people do some

illegal
or questionable approached by not using procedure turns
- the quiz in the latest magazine had the localizer backcourse shaded
incorrectly
- not much of the content is what I expected given all the raves about the
magazine.

What is it about the magazine that people seem to find so wonderful?


Well, it ain't the centerfold, or the swimsuit edition.



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Old February 2nd 04, 04:10 AM
Greg Esres
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What is it about the magazine that people seem to find so
wonderful?

Dunno. Some people like the writing style, but it really gets on my
nerves.

 




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