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Tony,
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050804/...al_restricted_ airspace Thank you, Hayden Sheaffer. NOT! -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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Yes. I saw the AOPA language. But the actual proposal contains this
language: We believe that as part of ensuring the security of the people, property and institutions in the Nation's capital, and surrounding area, it is essential to know the intended route of flight of the aircraft, to have the aircraft squawk a discrete transponder code, and to have automatic altitude reporting equipment on board the aircraft that transmits to ATC. Government officials believe that some types of aircraft operations (i.e., those conducted under parts 91, 101, 103, 105, 125, 133, 135 and 137) should continue to be prohibited within 15 miles of the DCA VOR/DME, unless specifically authorized by the FAA in consultation with the DoD and DHS. and this language: Who Is Potentially Affected by This Rulemaking? Private Sector All aircraft would have to be transponder equipped when entering the proposed DC SFRA and maintain two-way communications while flying in the proposed area. Pilots operating in accordance with visual flight rules (VFR) would have to file flight plans to fly within the proposed DC SFRA. There are approximately 150 airports in the proposed DC ADIZ. Given the additional requirements that general aviation pilots face, the FAA is concerned that many of these airports would have fewer operations. In some cases, some of these pilots may elect to use alternate nearby airports outside of the proposed DC SFRA. Indeed, I read through the entire proposal, and I can't find anything that makes the restrictions worse. Indeed, It seems to loosen the restrictions for "Special Egress Procedures for Fringe Airports", specifically "Airlie, Albrecht, Harris, Martin, Martin State, Meadows, Mylander, Stewart, St. John, Tilghman Whipp, Upperville, and Wolf airports", by allowing folks those pilots to use a specific transponder code and not require them to contact ATC. Of course, I've only heard of two of these airports...Upperville, which is private and always deserted (CIA?) and Airlie...which is a grass strip that I and children went on a demo flight in a 1930's era biplane several years ago. I digress. I hope I'm reading this correctly. I worked three gruelling years getting my ticket, and shutting down GA flights out of leesburg would essentially render flying impractical for me. -BC |
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On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 11:09:10 -0400, "Peter R."
wrote in :: Stand down, Larry. He was expressing his frustration to the newsgroup at large regarding the news that this closing looks to be a reality I wish I had your gift of prescience. and he making a statement to pilots in general that now more than ever pilots need to join AOPA to fight this restriction. A couple of letters to congressional representatives couldn't hurt either. He was not directing his comments specifically at you. Given the second dictionary definition below: Main Entry:2crap Function:noun Etymology:Middle English crappe chaff, residue from rendered fat, perhaps from Old French crappe chaff, residue, from Medieval Latin crappa Date:circa 1897 1 a usually vulgar : EXCREMENT b usually vulgar : the act of defecating 2 sometimes vulgar : NONSENSE, RUBBISH; also : STUFF 4b The ambiguity of his one word sentence is easily misconstrued as refuting my statement. Thanks for your interpretation. |
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Larry Dighera wrote:
The ambiguity of his one word sentence is easily misconstrued as refuting my statement. Yep, I now can see how your interpretation fits, too. Crap, as in "you posted crap, Larry." It's amazing that there is any civility in Usenet. -- Peter |
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Peter R. wrote:
It'sÂ*amazingÂ*thatÂ*thereÂ*isÂ*anyÂ*civilityÂ*in *Usenet. Civility on USENET is as much the responsibility of the reader as the writer. I've recently been criticized on a mailing list for being excessively verbose in my writing. I realize that it comes, at least partially, from my history with email and USENET (which dates back to about 1980 for me). I try to be sure that I've put everything in to cut down on the back-and-forth, and also to be as precise as possible so as to minimize opportunities for misinterpretation. As an added benefit, I've become quite a quick typist. ObOT: Didn't Congress demand that the FAA justify the ADIZ? Is this the FAA's response? - Andrew |
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Am I missing something here? Try http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsite...50803adiz.html . Second sentence. George Patterson Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks. |
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I'm more concerned about the second paragraph. In part:
"AOPA recognizes the necessity to protect the national assets in the nation's capital. The 15-nautical-mile-radius no-fly zone known as the flight-restricted zone (FRZ) does that," said AOPA President Phil Boyer. Jose -- Quantum Mechanics is like this: God =does= play dice with the universe, except there's no God, and there's no dice. And maybe there's no universe. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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Thomas Borchert wrote:
Thank you, Hayden Sheaffer. NOT! You got that right! George Patterson Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks. |
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Please post this link so it works properly . . . I cannot get to this
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