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Old February 16th 07, 02:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Chad
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Default Flight Review in a turbo twin

I own a turbo Cessna 310 and I'm wondering if other turbo twin owners
do their biennial flight review in their aircraft. Is single engine
work required for a flight review if done in a twin? I'm concered
that doing the review in my aircraft may be hard on the engines,
specifically the turbos. Would I be better off to just rent a single
engine for the review?

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Old February 16th 07, 02:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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Default Flight Review in a turbo twin

chad wrote:
I own a turbo Cessna 310 and I'm wondering if other turbo twin owners
do their biennial flight review in their aircraft. Is single engine
work required for a flight review if done in a twin? I'm concered
that doing the review in my aircraft may be hard on the engines,
specifically the turbos. Would I be better off to just rent a single
engine for the review?


How do you figure flying for an hour will be hard on the engines?

A flight review is not the same as the practical test.

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Old February 16th 07, 02:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Kyle Boatright
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"chad" wrote in message
ups.com...
I own a turbo Cessna 310 and I'm wondering if other turbo twin owners
do their biennial flight review in their aircraft. Is single engine
work required for a flight review if done in a twin? I'm concered
that doing the review in my aircraft may be hard on the engines,
specifically the turbos. Would I be better off to just rent a single
engine for the review?


Explain your concern to the instructor before the flight and make sure he
understands what things you *don't* want done with your engines. Then ask
ask if s/he can give you a flight review without doing any of the things you
consider problematic.

And remember, you are PIC, so you can say "No, I don't want to do that out
of concern for $50,000 of engines.."

If you can't find an instructor who is comfortable with your rules, go ahead
and rent a C-152 or whatever. It'll probably be cheaper than whatever it
really costs you to run that 310 for an hour.

KB


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Old February 16th 07, 01:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Denny
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Default Flight Review in a turbo twin

Take your review by getting signed off in a tail dragger... You will
learn more about airplane handling than a hundred hours of pointing
your twin towards the horizon...

denny

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Old February 16th 07, 02:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Nathan Young
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Default Flight Review in a turbo twin

On 15 Feb 2007 18:00:06 -0800, "chad" wrote:

I own a turbo Cessna 310 and I'm wondering if other turbo twin owners
do their biennial flight review in their aircraft. Is single engine
work required for a flight review if done in a twin? I'm concered
that doing the review in my aircraft may be hard on the engines,
specifically the turbos. Would I be better off to just rent a single
engine for the review?


The flight portion of my BFRs have focused on basic maneuvers, stalls,
slow flight, steep turns, and landings.

These procedures pretty much dictate the engines will go through many
high/low power cycles... Not the best for a turbo'd engine.

If I was you, I would rent a single for the day.

-Nathan

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Old February 16th 07, 02:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Dan Luke
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Default Flight Review in a turbo twin


"chad" wrote:

I own a turbo Cessna 310 and I'm wondering if other turbo twin owners
do their biennial flight review in their aircraft. Is single engine
work required for a flight review if done in a twin? I'm concered
that doing the review in my aircraft may be hard on the engines,
specifically the turbos. Would I be better off to just rent a single
engine for the review?


Pardon the question from an ASEL owner, but what good is a BFR for a ME pilot
that doesn't include engine-out procedures?

--
Dan
C-172RG at BFM


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Old February 16th 07, 03:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Denny
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Default Flight Review in a turbo twin

On Feb 16, 9:43 am, "Dan Luke" wrote:
"chad" wrote:
I own a turbo Cessna 310 and I'm wondering if other turbo twin owners
do their biennial flight review in their aircraft. Is single engine
work required for a flight review if done in a twin? I'm concered
that doing the review in my aircraft may be hard on the engines,
specifically the turbos. Would I be better off to just rent a single
engine for the review?


Pardon the question from an ASEL owner, but what good is a BFR for a ME pilot
that doesn't include engine-out procedures?

--
Dan
C-172RG at BFM


The BFR is non plane specific, non maneuver specific, etc... The CFI
can call for engine out procedures but that is exactly what he does
not want his turbo engines to go through... If he does it in his
plane, then he and the CFI have to decide what specific maneuvers will
be done...
Even though I learned to fly in conventional gear and flew such planes
most of my youth (J3, T-craft, 120, 103, etc.) I have also spent the
past few decades pushing twins towards the horizon... This past BFR I
chose to renew my aquaintance with conventional gear by checking out
in a PA-12... The reason for this one is that it returns me to the
right hand stick, left hand throttle, world.. First ten minutes were
fun breaking my right hand from moving when my brain called for power
changes... By the end of the sessionI had the full stall landing
working again and the hands sorted out... More fun that a bag full of
monkeys... Gonna do it for the next BFR also...

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Old February 16th 07, 03:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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Nathan Young wrote:
On 15 Feb 2007 18:00:06 -0800, "chad" wrote:


I own a turbo Cessna 310 and I'm wondering if other turbo twin owners
do their biennial flight review in their aircraft. Is single engine
work required for a flight review if done in a twin? I'm concered
that doing the review in my aircraft may be hard on the engines,
specifically the turbos. Would I be better off to just rent a single
engine for the review?


The flight portion of my BFRs have focused on basic maneuvers, stalls,
slow flight, steep turns, and landings.


These procedures pretty much dictate the engines will go through many
high/low power cycles... Not the best for a turbo'd engine.


If I was you, I would rent a single for the day.


-Nathan


My last review focused on communications (center, tower, ground),
airport area procedures, efficient use of the radios, using proper
phraseology, etc.

All the CFI's I know will pretty much do whatever you suggest you
feel you could use some brush up on. There is no requirement to do
basic maneuvers.

If you are instrument rated, is there some procedure you are less than
100% at?

If you are not instrument rated, when was the last time you did some
hood time?

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Jim Pennino

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Old February 16th 07, 03:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Dan Luke
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Default Flight Review in a turbo twin


"Denny" wrote:

Pardon the question from an ASEL owner, but what good is a BFR for a ME
pilot
that doesn't include engine-out procedures?


The BFR is non plane specific, non maneuver specific, etc... The CFI
can call for engine out procedures but that is exactly what he does
not want his turbo engines to go through... If he does it in his
plane, then he and the CFI have to decide what specific maneuvers will
be done...
Even though I learned to fly in conventional gear and flew such planes
most of my youth (J3, T-craft, 120, 103, etc.) I have also spent the
past few decades pushing twins towards the horizon... This past BFR I
chose to renew my aquaintance with conventional gear by checking out
in a PA-12... The reason for this one is that it returns me to the
right hand stick, left hand throttle, world.. First ten minutes were
fun breaking my right hand from moving when my brain called for power
changes... By the end of the session I had the full stall landing
working again and the hands sorted out... More fun that a bag full of
monkeys... Gonna do it for the next BFR also...


Sounds like fun.

I guess it's ok if you can say for sure your engine-out skills are sharp. A
couple of my ME pilot acquaintances of mine couldn't truthfully make that
statement.


--
Dan
C-172RG at BFM



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Old February 16th 07, 04:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Robert M. Gary
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Default Flight Review in a turbo twin

On Feb 16, 6:35 am, Nathan Young wrote:

The flight portion of my BFRs have focused on basic maneuvers, stalls,
slow flight, steep turns, and landings.

These procedures pretty much dictate the engines will go through many
high/low power cycles... Not the best for a turbo'd engine.

If I was you, I would rent a single for the day.


As a CFI I would not sign a guy off in a single for a BFR if I know
his daily flying is a turbo twin. However, we could probably do the
flight review in the twin without putting too much stress on his
engines. Or, he could rent a twin.

-Robert, CFII


 




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