please stop bashing France

a nice soul searching session

I agree that the Polish contribution to the Iraqi Freedom might seem
pathetic to many people. But we have send our finest (GROM is the finest of
the Polish military units). We have no resources to send 10 thousand troops
neither now nor we will have itin 10 or 20 years. Polish troops went for the
Iraqi Freedom OP as we wanted to show that we care. In reality US/UK would
have done the same, that is superb, without Poles. Everybody knows that. But
in other times, maybe less fortunate for Poland then right now, we might
need help from countries that don't really need to help. We hope they will
help for seemingly idiotic reasons, the same as Poland did in Iraq. Freedom
is not granted and you need to fight for it.
take care
lekomin inc

U¿ytkownik "Mike" napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
...
Colonial power?Germany?...hum!...
actually before the World War I they had some colonies in Africa...
what you say is true France+Germany+Belgium are only 3 countries...under
25,
but also remember how much of the EU gnp those three represent....
France and Germany,except Germany (lol),can make good food,but can also
make 3 times the national product of the ten new countries,Poland
included.
Sorry,but that is a fact,and that counts also.
Sure. You want GDP voting? ;PPP Take the GDP of EU15, subtract the GDPs of
Germany, France and Belgium (the anti-US countries) and add the GDPs of 10
new memberstates (all pro-US). I can bet in this sort of GDP voting Germany
France and Belgium would loose.
take care
lekomin inc

Mike wrote:

Maybe,this can be discussed,but that wasn't the point...
it was about the ten new countries joining the eu
you have difficulties in reading?

I understand you're writing in a non-native language, but you did write the
following:

Mike wrote:

Colonial power?Germany?...hum!...
what you say is true France+Germany+Belgium are only 3 countries...under 25,
but also remember how much of the EU gnp those three represent....
France and Germany,except Germany (lol),can make good food,but can also
make 3 times the national product of the ten new countries,Poland included.
Sorry,but that is a fact,and that counts also.

Written in the context of Poland and "New Europe" being told to promote the EU
[French] line by Chirac (with the implication that EU membership could be
jeapordized BTW).

I had no difficulties reading your statement. Perhaps something got lost in
translation, or we're simply not communicating in the same context.

This seems to be par for the course between Americans and French these days.


SMH


SMH

phil hunt wrote:

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 03:54:40 GMT, Tank Fixer wrote:

In case no one has mentioned it lately.

Your sentence no verb.

Thank you for you're support.

"Thank you for you are support."??

It is too bad it took nearly 50 years for Poland to gain it's freedom.

"It is too bad it took nearly 50 years for Poland to gain it is
freedom."??

I wonder how long it'll take for ****wit to learn elementary
grammar. Perhaps ****wit's as cultureless as it thinks the French
are.

Quick! Get to your Oxford English Dictionary and look up the definition
for the word "ANAL"!

It will make you a better person.


SMH

On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:04:14 -0700, Frank Vaughan wrote:

Yes, and the decision by the mayor of Paris to name a convicted
American cop killer as an honorary citizen was what?

Souind bizarre -- do you have details?

**** the French.

Good idea, some french women are lovely.

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In article t, "Tank
Fixer" wrote:

In article ,
says...

If ou want info or example on the French cultural scene, I'd be glad to
help.


France has no culture,

Not true.
A vile calumny.
France has a living and vibrant culture.
I mean how else do you explain the holes in Roquefort cheese?

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"Mike" wrote in message
...

Why?
What are you doing so well the others couldn't?

Everything

-The war,like in somalia,vietnam,maybe soon Irak and Afghanistan

All noble causes that are or were worthy of our blood. Just because you
don't have the guts to do the right thing is not a reason to condemn them.
And I am no arm chair general but have been very much in harms way the last
couple years.

-The freedom fries ( )))) )

kinda digs at you huh?

-Protecting the environment,no comment (too long list)

There is always a balance. If you are too stupid to see I can't help you.

-Influencing other countries,Chile 73,south vietnam,iran before 79,....

Yea SV and Iran are paradises now.

-Protecting yourself and the whole world from really dangerous
countries,like South Korea,and not Irak....

You advocated war with NK then? Or is this just a smoke screen?

-Protecting your own population from being shot in the streets?

I would love to fix this problem. Too bad the problem is lack of action in
persecuting criminal behavior and not, like some would have you believe, the
right to bear arms.

-Protecting your own population from diseases,even the poor people

We have the best medical facilities in the world. Go ahead and deny it but
I would rather be sick here than anywhere else. Anecdotal to be sure, but
when I visited Europe with my wife, she developed a deadly illness. I
didn't know it at the time and we came home. While she was at deaths door I
told the doctor, I wish I would have taken her to a hospital over there. He
shook his head and said she would have died certain since they (the
Europeans) were not even close to our technology regarding treatment. She
recovered, barely, thank God.

Oh yea, our poor people are richer than most middle class anywhere else,
your point?

-Preventing your own people from becoming more fat than any other in the
world,including 40 % of your children

That is a personal decision and not the business of the government.

-Guaranting your children not to be shot in their college

By taking away everyone's guns I suppose. Then they could maybe get blown
up huh.

-Preventing your population from being so uncultured that 50% of it could
not place India or France on a world map

Has to do with education idiot. Since the liberal scum has infested our
education system they are more apt to teach their liberal garbage than
geography.

-Showing the example to the rest of the world by admitting the strongest
can
be wrong.

But we are so seldom wrong there are few opportunities.

-Having to most numerous and fulfilled jails of the rich countries,and in
the same time the highest criminality

I am glad we have the criminals off the street. And if we stopped allowing
illegal immigrants in the country our jail population would drop by nearly
1/3. So I guess they are your criminals.

-Having a president that seizes the opportunity of 9/11 to make a law
including a very favorable article to protect his rich friends from a
pharmaceutic firm,who have sold
poison to handicaped children

Please. And I believe in the Easter Bunny. You should not believe all that
Eurotrash press. They do make thing up you know. No, I don't suppose you
did know.

-Having Fox "news"

I know this one really digs you because now we don't have to be brainwashed
anymore by CNN.

-Telling the whole world the truth about the real danger of a country you
want to attack

As compared to your truth?

-Having so good intelligence services you can't avoid something like
9/11,when some people inside those warn them very strongly

I am not sure you are intelligent enough to understand intelligence
analysis, so skip it.

-Having a president not really been elected

We have laws in this country. We follow them. If you or some who lost the
election don't like the result, too bad. But we will follow the law.

-Being able to make better that any other country in advanced industries
(satellites launching,civil and military aircrafts,military
materials,computers,...)

We do make the best stuff and I am proud of that fact. It protects us very
well and can destroy our enemies just as well.

-Following:....so that you don't have to influence countries to win
markets
(boieng,lokheed Martin,....)

Our stuff is sold all over the world without silly protectionist measures or
government subsidies (unlike some froggy enterprises).

-Arresting,killing,or simply finding your ennemies,like saddam hussein or
bin laden

We are trying and we will bring in our man. But in the mean time they will
at least do no more, or very little harm.

-Being greatly interested in all the crisis in the world (as a good
superpower) and not only in the ones you are financially involved.Having
good results
because of your power in resolving it,like
Rwanda,Palestinia,Tibet,Tchetchenia,...

As compared to France selling Iraq weapons and technology that could be used
to create weapons. Let's look closely at who has the moral high ground.

-Prepare the future of humanity by showing the example,in every
domain,like
fighting poverty and violence,education,culture,health (for all),third
world
development,
protection of environment and natural resources,...

You do it your way and we will do it our way. I think ours is the better so
don't even respond.

-Guarantee to the planet a good regulation system,that you,showing the
example,use and improve,and if necessary that you help to impose.A system
like the UN,
remplacing the law of the strenght,for the first time in history

The UN has become a club for loosers who are driven by jealousy and greed.
They are bent on attacking the US by using the UN system to tear down
anything that they can not control. Too bad but we will not play anymore.

And the nice part is, you can't do anything about it.

Necessary to gon on?.....

You never got very far.

You have been brainwashed by your system. A system that does not recognize
or fears freedom. Power means everything to you and your kind. You are no
better that the Communists or Nazis. The end DOES justify the means to you
doesn't it?

Well I favor freedom. Some bad things will happen, but compared to the
horrendous things that could happen when governments obtain too much power
is far worse. Liberals, socialists, new age thinkers have latched on to
government as the answer to everything from what to teach in school to what
to eat apparently. That puts them on the wrong side of freedom.

And what the Hell ever happened to the French. They use to be on the side
of good, the side of freedom. Have their hearts been contaminated somehow?
Has the liberal socialist philosophy so damaged their souls that they can't
see right from wrong anymore? Since half the blood running though my veins
is French I am heartwrenched as a once noble people lashes out in support of
anything anti US in a pitfully attempt to maintain some relevance for their
existence. The power of the French is rapidly diminishing. They have to
attack the US and prop up the UN. I guess they beleive that if they can
secure a informal leadership position, maybe they can maintain some national
pride.

I pity them.


MG

"phil hunt" a écrit dans le message de news:
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:04:14 -0700, Frank Vaughan
wrote:

Yes, and the decision by the mayor of Paris to name a convicted
American cop killer as an honorary citizen was what?

Souind bizarre -- do you have details?


Pff. The gay, socialist mayor of Paris made Mumia Adbu Jamal (spelling?) an
honorary citizen. Asked nobody before doing it. Publicity stunt.

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"Stephen Harding" wrote in message
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Christ... have you ever been to New England?

One has to wonder if you have.

On several occasions. I thought much of the rural areas looked quite third
world in comparison to the cities. (If we're using the term "third world"
as a description of Poland, which I don't think is.)

Si

"BUFDRVR" wrote in message
...
You're kidding right? You want to swap stupid tourist stories? Every
nation has
them. I was walking down the main street in Hoboken NJ listening to a
German
(or Belgian or Dutch or Danish, couldn't really tell), ask his American
buddy
if Hoboken was part of New York City. Unlike you, his friend replied
politely
(pointing east across the Hudson); "that's NYC, we're still in New
Jersey". I
got a chuckle out of it, but would not have been so French as to laugh out
loud.

Like I said, don't take it too seriously, I know we've all got stupid
tourist stories. I've always been treated politely in the US and I've
always tried to be polite to any tourists here, even if they be unfortunate
enough to cross my path on a bad day. My mother works for the tourist bureau
however, and boy has she got some stories! (A common one from (some)
visiting Americans is how difficult it is for them to navigate a car around
the town and why don't they make the roads bigger? The answer she gives
them of course is that many of the buildings on either side were built over
half a millenium ago and there tended to be less cars back then!) :^)

Si