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George Patterson writes:
Jay Honeck wrote: Go to Yahoo and type in "Iowa City Airport". The first choice that comes up is "Eastern Iowa Airport" -- the Cedar Rapids, IA airport! How do they *do* that? It doesn't appear to be a paid advertisement, since it appears along with the rest of the search results. This kind of stuff drives me crazy, since it seems to be a deliberate -- and annoyingly successful -- attempt to "spoof" the search engine. Why doesn't the Iowa City Airport come up first? Well, Yahoo *is* paid in different amounts by subscribers, and you can see that Eastern Iowa Airport has paid to subscribe (note the "category" tag). That's why they're at the top of the results list despite having nothing to do with the search. No accusation of "pay for placement" fraud has ever been substantiated against any major search engine to my knowledge. Do you have any evidence Yahoo is currently doing this? (They all distinguish carefully between advertisements and search results). I think the category tag just means they got a hit in the their semi-manual directory; but that may well explain the high ranking. I see nothing suspicious on the page suggesting the www.crairport.org is a paid result. The results at the right and the two above it are clearly labeled "sponsor results" and set off by a different background and a rule. -- David Dyer-Bennet, , http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/ RKBA: http://noguns-nomoney.com/ http://www.dd-b.net/carry/ Pics: http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/ http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/ Dragaera/Steven Brust: http://dragaera.info/ |
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David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
I think the problem really is that Yahoo isn't paying enough attention to the location of the words relative to each other on the page -- noting that the sequence "Iowa City" doesn't appear in the source for that page *at all*! It's worse than that. The word "city" doesn't occur on that page at all. The only thing I can think of is this -- search engines work by building a database of keywords and phrases that occur in documents. When you run a search, they're looking in the database. I think the contents of that page changed and the database has not. George Patterson Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks. |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:gbgUe.319519$_o.176759@attbi_s71... Go to Yahoo and type in "Iowa City Airport". The first choice that comes up is "Eastern Iowa Airport" -- the Cedar Rapids, IA airport! Bottom line is: If you use google, and type in "Iowa City Airport" in quotes (to preserve searching for the phrase, not the individual words), then the top of the list is the Alexis Park Inn's "Iowa City Airport History" page, just as you would want and expect. |
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Bottom line is:
If you use google, and type in "Iowa City Airport" in quotes (to preserve searching for the phrase, not the individual words), then the top of the list is the Alexis Park Inn's "Iowa City Airport History" page, just as you would want and expect. Actually, I want the Iowa City Airport to be listed first, ahead of the Cedar Rapids Airport -- without the stupid quotations marks that maybe 0.001% of the population knows to use. *Then* our history page could be listed, but (in real life) our FBO might be listed next? Search engines drive me nuts. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 04:21:41 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:
Actually, I want the Iowa City Airport to be listed first, ahead of the Cedar Rapids Airport -- without the stupid quotations marks that maybe 0.001% of the population knows to use. hopefully they don't go back and redesign the net to acomodate the other 99% idiots. Besides, google gains too much influence, IMHO. Even Cerf is now working there. #m -- The most likely way for the world to be destroyed, most experts agree, is by accident. That's where we come in; we're computer professionals. We cause accidents. -- Nathaniel Borenstein |
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First hit on Excite is http://www.icgov.org/airport.htm. Excite
compiles and sorts the search engines in order of relevance. Bush On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 13:34:04 GMT, "Jay Honeck" wrote: Go to Yahoo and type in "Iowa City Airport". The first choice that comes up is "Eastern Iowa Airport" -- the Cedar Rapids, IA airport! How do they *do* that? It doesn't appear to be a paid advertisement, since it appears along with the rest of the search results. This kind of stuff drives me crazy, since it seems to be a deliberate -- and annoyingly successful -- attempt to "spoof" the search engine. Why doesn't the Iowa City Airport come up first? |
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Jay,
FWIW: I went to clusty.com and your hotel was number 1 on the list. Hilton "Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:gbgUe.319519$_o.176759@attbi_s71... Go to Yahoo and type in "Iowa City Airport". The first choice that comes up is "Eastern Iowa Airport" -- the Cedar Rapids, IA airport! How do they *do* that? It doesn't appear to be a paid advertisement, since it appears along with the rest of the search results. This kind of stuff drives me crazy, since it seems to be a deliberate -- and annoyingly successful -- attempt to "spoof" the search engine. Why doesn't the Iowa City Airport come up first? -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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FWIW: I went to clusty.com and your hotel was number 1 on the list.
Well, that's cool -- but wrong. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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