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Off Airport Landings
Matt
As a matter of fact, I ofen demonstrate slow flight with ZERO indicated airspeed and make turns while doing so. And, I show it to students to let them see what is possible. Having a problem in picking out the quoted areas so bear with me? "The idea is to fly slowly so as to not tear off the wings and fall to the ground"? Where else are you gonna fall, and how can you prevent damage to the airplane like tearing off the wings? I fear you have the image of the common picture of that airplane sitting in the top of a tree like it was intended to land there? The reality of it is, you will crash to the ground or very near it! As for touching the tops of the trees, I have done it and am more than roughly correct. I've also had the experiences, many many times of having my wheels contact crops as I was spraying, and felt the instant drag forces that suck you down. Certainly we want to be going as slowly as possible prior to impact but it is much better to do it under control rather than on the edge and lose control at the first disruption of our flight attitude and/or.airspeed. Did you see the clips of the clown in Louisiana doing his abortive takeoff attempt and wrecking his airplane in the process? I have no sympathy or empathy for his ineptitude and careless operations. It happened so fast he had no time to make any corrections and his speed wasn't high enough for pieces to be torn off. The end result was the same though. A wrecked aircraft that crashed into trees with extensive damage to the plane and the vehicle/s he hit enroute to the accident scene. |
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WEll...since I got some interest in the road landings, lets take another shot at the off airport stuff? It has been addressed before but there are new readers and pilots who haven't been participants. When is the last time you, YOU did the "what if..." game and bothered to look off the road with the evaluation of a landing area? Found out a tire went soft in flight as I landed on a beach. Fashioned an airhose out of a flexible socket extension and used the CO2 cartridges from the life jackets to inflate the tire. Just another day in the tropics... D. |
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On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 11:25:37 GMT, Matt Whiting
wrote: I live in PA, so our trees are generally shorter. The goal is to land slowly enough that you don't tear off the wings and fall to the ground. I read somewhe "Picture an airport underneath you, and make the best landing on it that you can." Sounded good to me, and easier to remember than all that other stuff. I'd picture it as a grass strip, too, not asphalt -- all the best, Dan Ford email: usenet AT danford DOT net Warbird's Forum: www.warbirdforum.com Piper Cub Forum: www.pipercubforum.com the blog: www.danford.net In Search of Lost Time: www.readingproust.com |
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Cub Driver wrote:
On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 11:25:37 GMT, Matt Whiting wrote: I live in PA, so our trees are generally shorter. The goal is to land slowly enough that you don't tear off the wings and fall to the ground. I read somewhe "Picture an airport underneath you, and make the best landing on it that you can." Sounded good to me, and easier to remember than all that other stuff. I'd picture it as a grass strip, too, not asphalt Yes, but the hard part is figuring out the "field" elevation. :-) Matt |
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How Cool!!! I'll stick THAT one in my pilot bag of tricks!!! Had a tire
go flat on me during a landing (I think it was then) landing on a dirt strip in the Sudan after having struggled through a sand storm. Low on fuel and about to stick it into the sand dunes when I popped dout of the storm and spotted what I thought was a road and headed for it. Turned out to be a strip and I made an OK landing. My fuel was down to one hour or less after a 10 hour ferry flight from Cairo and Khartoum was still nearly two hours away. Cheers Rocky |
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On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 03:36:40 GMT, "Capt.Doug"
wrote in :: Found out a tire went soft in flight as I landed on a beach. Fashioned an airhose out of a flexible socket extension and used the CO2 cartridges from the life jackets to inflate the tire. Just another day in the tropics... What did you do with regard to the Schrader Valve in the valve stem? |
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message ... On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 03:36:40 GMT, "Capt.Doug" wrote in :: Found out a tire went soft in flight as I landed on a beach. Fashioned an airhose out of a flexible socket extension and used the CO2 cartridges from the life jackets to inflate the tire. Just another day in the tropics... What did you do with regard to the Schrader Valve in the valve stem? The pressure of the CO2 will overpower the spring on the valve and force it open. When the CO2 is removed the spring pushes the valve closed. (You do not have to manually push down the valve core to open it.) Allen |
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Off Airport Landings
I live in PA, so our trees are generally shorter.
I live in State College PA, exact center of the state; and north of here, ain't nothing but trees to the NY state line. Some are fairly tall. Here and there, what appears to be a clear patch is really covered by stumps a foot or two high, that can't be seen till it's too late to go elsewhere, and will tear and airplane and occupants to pieces. Landing in the treetops in northern PA is the best option. vince norris |
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"vincent p. norris" wrote Here and there, what appears to be a clear patch is really covered by stumps a foot or two high, that can't be seen till it's too late to go elsewhere, and will tear and airplane and occupants to pieces. Landing in the treetops in northern PA is the best option. I had never considered that. Clearcut logging is a big thing around here, too. Humm. -- Jim in NC |
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