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Old January 19th 08, 08:27 PM posted to alt.disasters.aviation,rec.aviation.piloting
Eeyore[_2_]
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Local internet service providers may consider blocking an American from
taking part in online discussions following one of the worst cases of
"flaming" seen in this country.

A mysterious figure calling himself "Bertie the Bunyip" has upset local
Usenet newsgroups after a bizarre campaign that has included posting
fake photographs of a topless Queen Mother.

If someone burst into a cafe or pub and started yelling obscenities and
abusing everyone in sight, you might expect the manager to throw them
out or call the police.

But neither of these remedies is available to the newsgroup users, who
are desperate to rid themselves of what is known on the internet as a
"troll."

Trolls get their kicks from baiting other people using online discussion

forums.

"Bertie the Bunyip" is believed to be a commercial pilot living in the
United States.

He claims to have been similarly hounding newsgroups in the United
States for three years, despite complaints to the FBI and a libel action

against him.

After local users unwisely responded to his taunts, the Bunyip's replies

soon spread to the nz.comp and nz.politics newsgroups.

New Zealand politicians - including some ministers - are believed to use

the politics group.

In the past few days, the American has paralysed the most popular of the

local forums, nz.general, which is read by up to 50,000 people.

Bunyip's antics have prompted some users to stop using the newsgroups.

Bunyip changes his identity characteristics every 30 or 40 posts, so it
is difficult to check him using e-mail or newsreader software blocked
senders' lists.

David Farrar, a newsgroup user and information technology adviser to
National Party leader Jenny Shipley, described the "flame" war as the
worst outbreak of its kind he had seen on New Zealand discussion groups.

Applying sanctions against Usenet users could be extremely difficult,
said Mr Farrar.

Bunyip has been using a Seattle-based newsgroup service called Altopia,
which has a liberal policy on what it will allow.

"One of the problems of newsgroups is that they are about as close to
anarchy as anything can get," he said.

"If you get a person going rogue, as this Bertie the Bunyip has, you
would normally complain to their internet service provider.

"Unless it is causing actual harm, they don't see it as their job to
police it."

Xtra systems support specialist Richard Stevenson said he could easily
filter the messages from Xtra's news server - one of several providing
Usenet feeds in New Zealand.

But he would not decide to do so himself.

Mr Stevenson said he had not yet had to remove individual posts but had
occasionally, at the request of the Department of Internal Affairs,
blocked newsgroups that were related to child pornography.

He was not concerned about Bunyip's rights to freedom of speech.

"He's got to get it into his skull that [news servers] are private
property."

Mr Farrar believed that if Bunyip persisted for more than a couple of
weeks, local internet service providers might agree to remove him from
New Zealand servers.

But it was more likely that Bunyip would disappear quite quickly if
ignored.


http://talkaboutaviation.com/group/a...ges/96406.html

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Old January 19th 08, 08:34 PM posted to alt.disasters.aviation, rec.aviation.piloting
george
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On Jan 20, 8:27 am, Eeyore
wrote:
Local internet service providers may consider blocking an American from
taking part in online discussions following one of the worst cases of
"flaming" seen in this country.


Rubbish.

You are demonstrating your ignorance as to how the Internet and
especially news groups work.
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Old January 19th 08, 08:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Eeyore wrote in
:


Local internet service providers may consider blocking an American
from taking part in online discussions following one of the worst
cases of "flaming" seen in this country.

A mysterious figure calling himself "Bertie the Bunyip" has upset
local Usenet newsgroups after a bizarre campaign that has included
posting fake photographs of a topless Queen Mother.

If someone burst into a cafe or pub and started yelling obscenities
and abusing everyone in sight, you might expect the manager to throw
them out or call the police.

But neither of these remedies is available to the newsgroup users, who
are desperate to rid themselves of what is known on the internet as a
"troll."

Trolls get their kicks from baiting other people using online
discussion

forums.

"Bertie the Bunyip" is believed to be a commercial pilot living in the
United States.

He claims to have been similarly hounding newsgroups in the United
States for three years, despite complaints to the FBI and a libel
action

against him.

After local users unwisely responded to his taunts, the Bunyip's
replies

soon spread to the nz.comp and nz.politics newsgroups.

New Zealand politicians - including some ministers - are believed to
use

the politics group.

In the past few days, the American has paralysed the most popular of
the

local forums, nz.general, which is read by up to 50,000 people.

Bunyip's antics have prompted some users to stop using the newsgroups.

Bunyip changes his identity characteristics every 30 or 40 posts, so
it is difficult to check him using e-mail or newsreader software
blocked senders' lists.

David Farrar, a newsgroup user and information technology adviser to
National Party leader Jenny Shipley, described the "flame" war as the
worst outbreak of its kind he had seen on New Zealand discussion
groups.

Applying sanctions against Usenet users could be extremely difficult,
said Mr Farrar.

Bunyip has been using a Seattle-based newsgroup service called
Altopia, which has a liberal policy on what it will allow.

"One of the problems of newsgroups is that they are about as close to
anarchy as anything can get," he said.

"If you get a person going rogue, as this Bertie the Bunyip has, you
would normally complain to their internet service provider.

"Unless it is causing actual harm, they don't see it as their job to
police it."

Xtra systems support specialist Richard Stevenson said he could easily
filter the messages from Xtra's news server - one of several providing
Usenet feeds in New Zealand.

But he would not decide to do so himself.

Mr Stevenson said he had not yet had to remove individual posts but
had occasionally, at the request of the Department of Internal
Affairs, blocked newsgroups that were related to child pornography.

He was not concerned about Bunyip's rights to freedom of speech.

"He's got to get it into his skull that [news servers] are private
property."

Mr Farrar believed that if Bunyip persisted for more than a couple of
weeks, local internet service providers might agree to remove him from
New Zealand servers.

But it was more likely that Bunyip would disappear quite quickly if
ignored.


Old news but thanks for sharing!


I think I still have that poic of the queen mother's tits somewhere. You
could put it on your wall and sing "God save the Queen " While you do
whatever it is you assholes do.....



Bertie
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Old January 19th 08, 08:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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James Robinson wrote in
:

Eeyore wrote:

Local internet service providers may consider blocking an American
from taking part in online discussions following one of the worst
cases of "flaming" seen in this country.


snip

That article is seven years old. Hasn't had much effect, has it?


Not a lot. The upshot of this was there was actually a komplaint made on
behalf of the New Zealand Gov't, to which the reply came "You're just like
the Queen mother's nasty, everone knows it's down under but nobody cares"





Bertie
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Old January 19th 08, 08:59 PM posted to alt.disasters.aviation, rec.aviation.piloting
terry
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On Jan 20, 6:27*am, Eeyore
wrote:
Local internet service providers may consider blocking an American from
taking part in online discussions following one of the worst cases of
"flaming" seen in this country.

snip

A strange character indeed, and the nz link is interesting, is he a
Kiwi perhaps? I had often wondered if Bertie might be an Aussie,
the bunyip being an Australian folkore character after all, and
theres not really much difference between a Kiwi and an Aussie
(apart from about 10 IQ points ,the inability to say the number six or
to play cricket and of course the great , lets call it rappour , they
have with their sheep ). No offence Kiwis, I am just seeing if I can
flush him out !

Terry
PPL downunder


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Old January 19th 08, 09:10 PM posted to alt.disasters.aviation,rec.aviation.piloting
Eeyore[_2_]
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george wrote:

Eeyore wrote:

Local internet service providers may consider blocking an American from
taking part in online discussions following one of the worst cases of
"flaming" seen in this country.


Rubbish.

You are demonstrating your ignorance as to how the Internet and
especially news groups work.


No. I'm demonstrating the ignorance of NEWSPAPERS about how the Internet and
especially newsgroups work.

I know EXACTLY how they work myself.

However that wasn't the point of the post.

Graham


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Old January 19th 08, 09:11 PM posted to alt.disasters.aviation,rec.aviation.piloting
Eeyore[_2_]
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James Robinson wrote:

Eeyore wrote:

Local internet service providers may consider blocking an American
from taking part in online discussions following one of the worst
cases of "flaming" seen in this country.


snip

That article is seven years old. Hasn't had much effect, has it?


It was for background info on Bertie only.

He has actually pretty much stopped disrupting groups now though along
with his idiot 'meow' friends.

Graham


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Old January 19th 08, 09:13 PM posted to alt.disasters.aviation,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default About Bertie waatch out for him adding k00k groups



Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Hey! You left out the bit about the Queen Mother!


No it didn't.

alt.usenet.kooks REMOVED

Graham



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Old January 19th 08, 09:15 PM posted to alt.disasters.aviation,rec.aviation.piloting
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

My provider forwarded all of his whiney komplaints about me,to me, BTW.

hilarious!


All ONE of them (from when you 'imposted' me) ?

Graham

 




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