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Old May 4th 04, 07:34 PM
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Thanks! I forgot you'd put some approach plates on your site. I figured that
someone with the raw data had done it. Exactly what I was looking for.

Now, why was I thinking that there are enough of these approaches to be worth
the effort in certifying it?....

-Cory

Kyler Laird wrote:
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: Hello all... I was looking through the online instrument procedures, trying to
:find a VOR/DME RNAV approach to do the flight test portion of my KNS-80 IFR
:certification. They aren't that prevalent, and I'm in Virginia, but basically equally
:close to WV, KY, TN, and NC, which spans a number of sets of plates. I figured online
:would be a good way to find one that's close, but none of the sites I've found (AOPA,
:NACO.faa.gov, flyguides.com, etc) sort by anything other than identifier. Anyone know
:of a place to sort this database by type? Buying a slew of paper plates just to
:manually thumb through them and find RNAV approaches seems a bit silly.

: Freakin' lazy-ass paper-saving autopilot-using instrument pilots...
:
https://aviationtoolbox.org/Members/...= TN&state=NC

: --kyler

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Old May 4th 04, 07:40 PM
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Agreed... with one addition. The "old-school" flying basically uses the chart
to filter this information. Looking at the chart that you presumably have folded open
to where you are limits the scope of things you can look up to things nearby. I'm not
sure there's a good answer to it.... typically problem finding a good way to filter
through of too much information with a minimum amount of interraction.

-Cory
Teacherjh wrote:
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: I don't want to have to poke the GPS dozens of times to find out
: where I am relative to something else
: (poke-poke-twist/twist-'K'-twist/twist-'P'
: -twist/twist-'S'-twist/twist-'K'-twist/twist-enter). I like the simplicity of
: dialing
: '116.8' and seeing a DME.
:

: This has less to do with the GPS than it has to do with the idea of putting as
: many functions as possible into as few buttons as possible. With all that
: computing power, it's got to be fairly simple to have a dedicated knob that
: just cycles through the "nearest" identefiers. Chances are whatever you are
: looking for is contextually near something you just did, and cycling
: alphabetically through the fifteen choices would be much quicker.

: For example, in a flight plan, it would cycle through the nearest identifiers
: to the previous entry. The knob would pull out to include (or omit)
: intersections. The Apollo unit in our aircraft does something like this
: already, but with less smarts.

: I tend to use the #2 nav/comm because the knobs always do the same thing. On
: the Garmin, I have to be sure I'm in the right mode and have selected NAV or
: COMM before twisting. I'd rather just have another knob. In the cockpit that
: is more important than geeky button efficiency.

: Jose

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Old May 5th 04, 01:08 AM
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https://aviationtoolbox.org/Members/...= TN&state=NC

Thanks! I forgot you'd put some approach plates on your site. I figured that
someone with the raw data had done it. Exactly what I was looking for.


I'm not that good. I'd thought about doing something like that awhile
ago but I hadn't gotten around to it. After I read your request this
morning I decided to quickly whip together something simple. It's
easier for me to work from an example. (Plus I'm avoiding studying for
my final exam tomorrow...)

BTW, the compilations should work for that list now. (I noticed you had
a problem with it earlier. It wasn't dealing well with compiling plates
for multiple airports.)

Now, why was I thinking that there are enough of these approaches to be worth
the effort in certifying it?....


Did you try searching for just "RNAV" approaches? There are a bunch
more.
https://aviationtoolbox.org/Members/...te=TN&state=NC

--kyler
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Old May 5th 04, 03:51 AM
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I just find it comical that throughout my avionics upgrade, many people
categorically gave the knee-jerk reaction to install a Garmin 430 or 530

and that the
KNS-80 was "obsolete junk." Apparently, if you don't fly behind a color,

moving-map,

I'm with you all the way... when I finish upgrading my panel at the end of
this year, I will retain every form of navigation known to piston general
aviation: VOR, KNS-80 VOR/DME RNAV, ILS, LDA, SDF, ADF, GPS, Loran

There is a VOR/DME RNAV approach to CRW (Charleston, WV); I fly it
occasionally with students in my airplane. When you fly the approach,
admire the approach lighting system built on bridges through the mountains..
quite an impressive engineering feat.


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Old May 5th 04, 12:14 PM
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Richard Kaplan wrote:

There is a VOR/DME RNAV approach to CRW (Charleston, WV); I fly it
occasionally with students in my airplane. When you fly the approach,
admire the approach lighting system built on bridges through the mountains..
quite an impressive engineering feat.



What ALSes are those? The only I find for CRW are for the ILS 23. The
Rho/Theta approaches go to 15 and 33.

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Old May 5th 04, 03:50 PM
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: I'm with you all the way... when I finish upgrading my panel at the end of
: this year, I will retain every form of navigation known to piston general
: aviation: VOR, KNS-80 VOR/DME RNAV, ILS, LDA, SDF, ADF, GPS, Loran

The more, the merrier. Redundancy is a good thing... and keeps you fresh on
everything if you play with it all all the time. It's frightening to think of all the
pilots out there (VFR or IFR) that get in, mount their hand-held color,
moving-map GPS-295 to the yoke, punch direct-to and never look at anything else until
they're on short final.

: There is a VOR/DME RNAV approach to CRW (Charleston, WV); I fly it
: occasionally with students in my airplane. When you fly the approach,
: admire the approach lighting system built on bridges through the mountains..
: quite an impressive engineering feat.

I've noticed that... maybe next time I fly up to Ohio to see family I'll shoot
the approach on the way through for the certification checkout.

-Cory



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