Sea Harrier vertically landing with unused missiles

Could Sea Harrier FRS1 safely land vertically with two unused Sea
Eagles attached in hot weather condition?

"KDR" wrote in message
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Could Sea Harrier FRS1 safely land vertically with two unused Sea
Eagles attached in hot weather condition?

Your question evokes the immediate response ... insufficient data.
Read the ODM ... (Operating Data Manuals)
The manual consisted of lots of charts and a 'data point' can be extracted
by 'entering' one chart with a condition (say weight) against 'day' (ISA + n
deg) then perhaps taking that datapoint onto another chart reading off
height (above mean sea level) which might give you an answer to your
question.
Of hand; - two minutes after take-off from Nairobi in mid-summer... ?
whereas after a two hour sortie from the Falklands in mid-winter ... ?
Context, as they say, is everything.

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Brian

Sea Eagles? Probably not.

Sea Harriers are known for having power difficulties in warm weather
and Sea Eagles are heavy.

There were a number of situations in Iraq where Sea Harriers were
unable to participate because of the weather which is why they are
being retired and replaced by RAF GR.xs.

Airyx wrote:
Sea Eagles? Probably not.

Sea Harriers are known for having power difficulties in warm weather
and Sea Eagles are heavy.

There were a number of situations in Iraq where Sea Harriers were
unable to participate because of the weather which is why they are
being retired and replaced by RAF GR.xs.

Yes Sea Harrier FA2 does have that problem but what I want to know
about is FRS1.

Brian Sharrock wrote:
"KDR" wrote in message
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Could Sea Harrier FRS1 safely land vertically with two unused Sea
Eagles attached in hot weather condition?

Your question evokes the immediate response ... insufficient data.
Read the ODM ... (Operating Data Manuals)
The manual consisted of lots of charts and a 'data point' can be extracted
by 'entering' one chart with a condition (say weight) against 'day' (ISA + n
deg) then perhaps taking that datapoint onto another chart reading off
height (above mean sea level) which might give you an answer to your
question.
Of hand; - two minutes after take-off from Nairobi in mid-summer... ?
whereas after a two hour sortie from the Falklands in mid-winter ... ?
Context, as they say, is everything.

--

Brian

OK, could Sea Harrier FRS1 safely land vertically on the Invincible
class carrier in the South China Sea in mid-summer with two unused Sea
Eagles after a two-hour mission?

Was there any case the FRS1 had to jettison unused Sea Eagles before
landing on the carrier?

"KDR" wrote in message
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Brian Sharrock wrote:
"KDR" wrote in message
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Could Sea Harrier FRS1 safely land vertically with two unused Sea
Eagles attached in hot weather condition?

Your question evokes the immediate response ... insufficient data.
Read the ODM ... (Operating Data Manuals)
The manual consisted of lots of charts and a 'data point' can be
extracted
by 'entering' one chart with a condition (say weight) against 'day' (ISA
+ n
deg) then perhaps taking that datapoint onto another chart reading off
height (above mean sea level) which might give you an answer to your
question.
Of hand; - two minutes after take-off from Nairobi in mid-summer... ?
whereas after a two hour sortie from the Falklands in mid-winter ... ?
Context, as they say, is everything.

--

Brian

OK, could Sea Harrier FRS1 safely land vertically on the Invincible
class carrier in the South China Sea in mid-summer with two unused Sea
Eagles after a two-hour mission?

Was there any case the FRS1 had to jettison unused Sea Eagles before
landing on the carrier?


Sorry, but you would have to read the ODM. If you don't have access to the
data you probably aren't authorised to have it. [its tough, but it's life]
..If you have a legitimate need-to-know; try posing the question to the
manufacturer's marketing department.

--

Brian

KDR wrote:
Brian Sharrock wrote:
"KDR" wrote in message
oups.com...
Could Sea Harrier FRS1 safely land vertically with two unused Sea
Eagles attached in hot weather condition?

Your question evokes the immediate response ... insufficient data.
Read the ODM ... (Operating Data Manuals)
The manual consisted of lots of charts and a 'data point' can be extracted
by 'entering' one chart with a condition (say weight) against 'day' (ISA + n
deg) then perhaps taking that datapoint onto another chart reading off
height (above mean sea level) which might give you an answer to your
question.
Of hand; - two minutes after take-off from Nairobi in mid-summer... ?
whereas after a two hour sortie from the Falklands in mid-winter ... ?
Context, as they say, is everything.

--

Brian

OK, could Sea Harrier FRS1 safely land vertically on the Invincible
class carrier in the South China Sea in mid-summer with two unused Sea
Eagles after a two-hour mission?

Was there any case the FRS1 had to jettison unused Sea Eagles before
landing on the carrier?

I would imagine that after 2 hours the fuel load would be so reduced
that the weight of the missiles wouldn't come into the equation.
Dumping missiles would get one on jankers quicksmart

In rec.aviation.military KDR wrote:
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OK, could Sea Harrier FRS1 safely land vertically on the Invincible
class carrier in the South China Sea in mid-summer with two unused Sea
Eagles after a two-hour mission?

Was there any case the FRS1 had to jettison unused Sea Eagles before
landing on the carrier?

The trivial way would be to look up the weight of a Sea Eagle.
600Kg per.
So, 1200Kg.

The first site I found gave 2295Kg of fuel for a model of the harrier.

So, if it can land fully fueled, but without the eagles, then it can
land with about half and them.
Assuming no COG/... issues.