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Third "turbine" on top of large Mil helis?



 
 
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Old March 17th 06, 04:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.rotorcraft
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Hi, many of the large Mil helis have what looks like a third turbine
above, and slightly behind the two main turbines. What is it? All of
the specs for these helis say they have two turbines. I can see blades
in some photos, so it's obviously something like a turbine.


Thanks, Justin.

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Old March 17th 06, 04:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.rotorcraft
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Hi, many of the large Mil helis . . . . .


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Old March 17th 06, 06:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.rotorcraft
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http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1011699/M/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0857039/M/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0658477/M/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0863587/M/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0646747/M/

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Old March 17th 06, 06:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.rotorcraft
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Hi, many of the large Mil helis have what looks like a third turbine
above, and slightly behind the two main turbines. What is it? All of
the specs for these helis say they have two turbines. I can see blades
in some photos, so it's obviously something like a turbine.


Oil Cooler fan

Slatts


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Old March 17th 06, 06:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.rotorcraft
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That is an auxiliary power unit (APU) for pneumatic main turbine starting.
Required for self-contained operations. At least some models of Mil are
equipped with Ivchenko AI-9V APU unit.

Use e.g. Vivisimo meta-search engine www.vivisimo.com and type "Mil Mi APU"
and you get more information about the subject.

JP


kirjoitti
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Hi, many of the large Mil helis have what looks like a third turbine
above, and slightly behind the two main turbines. What is it? All of
the specs for these helis say they have two turbines. I can see blades
in some photos, so it's obviously something like a turbine.


Thanks, Justin.

http://soupisgoodfood.net/



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Old March 17th 06, 06:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.rotorcraft
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Default Third "turbine" on top of large Mil helis?

Oil cooler fan mentioned earlier is not a bad idea after all! Some larger
Mil helos may have a main transmission cooling system located just there.

JP

"JP" kirjoitti
...
That is an auxiliary power unit (APU) for pneumatic main turbine starting.
Required for self-contained operations. At least some models of Mil are
equipped with Ivchenko AI-9V APU unit.

Use e.g. Vivisimo meta-search engine www.vivisimo.com and type "Mil Mi
APU" and you get more information about the subject.

JP


kirjoitti
glegroups.com...
Hi, many of the large Mil helis have what looks like a third turbine
above, and slightly behind the two main turbines. What is it? All of
the specs for these helis say they have two turbines. I can see blades
in some photos, so it's obviously something like a turbine.


Thanks, Justin.

http://soupisgoodfood.net/





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Old March 17th 06, 06:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.rotorcraft
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Default Third "turbine" on top of large Mil helis?

Thanks for that. Mystery solved

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Old March 19th 06, 02:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.rotorcraft
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Justin, Look at first picture. Left rear of cowling shows small exhaust
for APU (I'd guess about 5 in. compared to larger main engines).

Ed R.

wrote:
Thanks for that. Mystery solved


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Old March 19th 06, 03:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.rotorcraft
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"JP" wrote in message
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That is an auxiliary power unit (APU) for pneumatic main turbine starting.
Required for self-contained operations. At least some models of Mil are
equipped with Ivchenko AI-9V APU unit.

Use e.g. Vivisimo meta-search engine www.vivisimo.com and type "Mil Mi
APU"


The APU is behind the transmission.

Slatts


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Old March 19th 06, 03:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.rotorcraft
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Default Third "turbine" on top of large Mil helis?

"Sla#s" kirjoitti
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"JP" wrote in message
...
That is an auxiliary power unit (APU) for pneumatic main turbine
starting. Required for self-contained operations. At least some models of
Mil are equipped with Ivchenko AI-9V APU unit.

Use e.g. Vivisimo meta-search engine www.vivisimo.com and type "Mil Mi
APU"


The APU is behind the transmission.

Slatts




Yes I agree, it seems to be the case. The APU is behind the main
transmission. The "third turbine" has to be an oil cooler fan.

JP


 




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