Yep - 9-11 attacks predicted in 1994

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 19:27:08 GMT, Chad Irby wrote:


In article ,
(Tim) wrote:


It's CLEAR that such events were proposed
and examined, an Egyptian plane, as I recall, was hijacked for
specifically this purpose (crashing it into a structure) before 9/11,
and the White House/Capitol area had drills for such eventualities (of
course they NEVER worked, look at the guy that crashed a plane into
the White House in 1994.

Not to mention that some guys tried to blow the WTC up back in 1993.

It's a shame that the US administration at the time never got around to
actually catching the guys behind the plot. And, oddly enough, the guy
who's out there complaining loudly about how the Bush administration
didn't eliminate al-Qaeda in eight months hadn't bothered to seriously
go after them in the previous eight *years*... but he had cyberterrorism
to chase after.


Clinton went after bin laden and every time he did you repugs scoffed
at him for blowing up aspirin factories and wagging the dog,

That is all he accomplished.

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"The fatal attraction of government is that it allows busybodies to
impose decisions on others without paying any price themselves."

"It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making
decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who
pay no price for being wrong" Author Thomas Sowell

wrote:

On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 18:42:46 -0700, "RD (The Sandman)"
wrote:


But they didn't know when or where or how. Makes it a little difficult
to put too many preventative measures in place.


How about increase airport security. Oh! Bush brother was in charge
and..

Did you miss the word 'how'? Apparently you did. You should learn to
read *with* comprehension. It makes everything clearer.

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Sleep well tonight.........RD (The Sandman)

http://home.comcast.net/~rdsandman

"The fatal attraction of government is that it allows busybodies to
impose decisions on others without paying any price themselves."

"It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making
decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who
pay no price for being wrong" Author Thomas Sowell

Al Dykes wrote:

In article ,
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

That's when tom clancy published his popular novel "Debt of Honor"
about terrorists flying a fuel-laden jet into the Capitol Building.
Now you know why condoleeza rice and others in the bush gang don't
want to testify to the 9-11 panel. Condi told us after 9-11 that no
one could have imagined such a thing could happen!!!! Sheeiiiit -
millions of americans were aware of this threat.


But that's fiction. Reality is even better;

One of the people that planned the 1993 World Trade Center bombing was
captured a couple of years later in the Philippines with a laptop. On
the laptop were plans to capture as many as 12 jumbos and crash them
into buildings, all at once.

These people thought the 1993 bomb was powerfull enough to take down
one of the WTC towers. It made a crater inside, the size of a
building, 6 floors high. Some people realized that one signature of AQ
is returning to complete failed attacks. The happened on the Cole
attack, and I beleive, on some Embassy bombings.

IMHO the airlines are the people that allowed 9/11 to happen. For
years the FAA had been asking the airlines to put locks on the cockpit
door, like the Israelies do.

They also prohibited guns in the cockpit since 1986.



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Sleep well tonight.........RD (The Sandman)

http://home.comcast.net/~rdsandman

"The fatal attraction of government is that it allows busybodies to
impose decisions on others without paying any price themselves."

"It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making
decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who
pay no price for being wrong" Author Thomas Sowell

"Al Dykes" wrote in message
...


The FBI/CIA/FAA culture that prevented the sharing of
information help. So did that fact that as of Spring 01 Ashcroft didn't
have terrorist on his list of the 7 highest priority issues, and that
Bush slashed the FBI terrorism budget buy a billiion in the summer of
01.

All of this was reported in the public press before 9/11/01.
I bet It wasn't reported on Fox Cable News.

Actually, what Fox is reporting today is a bit different from your take on
the issue. Interestingly enough, the same Mr. Clark who has been lately
trashing the current administration for its alleged lack of attention to AQ
before 9-11 was singing quite a different tune in August 2002, when he was
tape recorded by reporters saying:

"...there was no plan on Al Qaeda that was passed from the Clinton
administration to the Bush administration. Second point is that the Clinton
administration had a strategy in place, effectively dating from 1998... And
in January 2001, the incoming Bush administration was briefed on the
existing strategy. They were also briefed on these series of issues that had
not been decided on in a couple of years. And the third point is the Bush
administration decided then, you know, mid-January, to do two things. One,
vigorously pursue the existing policy, including all of the lethal covert
action findings, which we've now made public to some extent. And the point
is, while this big review was going on, there were still in effect, the
lethal findings were still in effect. The second thing the administration
decided to do is to initiate a process to look at those issues which had
been on the table for a couple of years and get them decided. So, point
five, that process which was initiated in the first week in February, uh,
decided in principle, uh in the spring to add to the existing Clinton
strategy and to increase CIA resources, for example, for covert action,
five-fold, to go after Al Qaeda. The sixth point, the newly-appointed
deputies - and you had to remember, the deputies didn't get into office
until late March, early April. The deputies then tasked the development of
the implementation details, uh, of these new decisions that they were
endorsing, and sending out to the principals. Over the course of the
summer - last point - they developed implementation details, the principals
met at the end of the summer, approved them in their first meeting, changed
the strategy by authorizing the increase in funding five-fold, changing the
policy on Pakistan, changing the policy on Uzbekistan, changing the policy
on the Northern Alliance assistance. And then changed the strategy from one
of rollback with Al Qaeda over the course [of] five years, which it had
been, to a new strategy that called for the rapid elimination of al Qaeda.
That is in fact the timeline."

Followed by specific questions addressed to Mr. Clark that included:
JIM ANGLE: You're saying that the Bush administration did not stop anything
that the Clinton administration was doing while it was making these
decisions, and by the end of the summer had increased money for covert
action five-fold. Is that correct?

CLARKE: All of that's correct.

ANGLE: Now the five-fold increase for the money in covert operations against
Al Qaeda - did that actually go into effect when it was decided or was that
a decision that happened in the next budget year or something?

CLARKE: Well, it was gonna go into effect in October, which was the next
budget year, so it was a month away.

QUESTION: That actually got into the intelligence budget?

CLARKE: Yes it did.

QUESTION: Just to clarify, did that come up in April or later?

CLARKE: No, it came up in April and it was approved in principle and then
went through the summer. And you know, the other thing to bear in mind is
the shift from the rollback strategy to the elimination strategy. When
President Bush told us in March to stop swatting at flies and just solve
this problem, then that was the strategic direction that changed the NSPD
from one of rollback to one of elimination.

How different all of this is from what Clark has been saying of late. You
are concerned over an alleged major decrease to the FBI "terrorism budget"
(and your cite for that is...? Ignoring the fact that by that time all of
the the money in the world added to that budget would not have stopped 9-11
from happening...), while Clark acknowledges that the folks at the pointy
end of the spear were in line to get a five-fold increase in their
supporting funding, and that the Bush administration had as Clark put it at
the time, "When President Bush told us in March to stop swatting at flies
and just solve this problem, then that was the strategic direction that
changed the NSPD from one of rollback to one of elimination."

I've had my share of beefs with "FauxNews", but this time they have hit the
nail on the head, and they have it on tape to prove it. Mr. Clark's
"background" comments are coming back to prove him to be what some
administration sources have indeed labled him over the last few days--a man
disgruntled over his failure to secure a promotion he thought he deserved,
and who has let that animosity turn him into an out-and-out liar in regards
to his latest comments.

Brooks

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Paul Mays wrote:

"Al Dykes" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
That's when tom clancy published his popular novel "Debt of Honor"
about terrorists flying a fuel-laden jet into the Capitol Building.
Now you know why condoleeza rice and others in the bush gang don't
want to testify to the 9-11 panel. Condi told us after 9-11 that no
one could have imagined such a thing could happen!!!! Sheeiiiit -
millions of americans were aware of this threat.

But that's fiction. Reality is even better;

One of the people that planned the 1993 World Trade Center bombing was
captured a couple of years later in the Philippines with a laptop. On
the laptop were plans to capture as many as 12 jumbos and crash them
into buildings, all at once.

These people thought the 1993 bomb was powerfull enough to take down
one of the WTC towers. It made a crater inside, the size of a
building, 6 floors high. Some people realized that one signature of AQ
is returning to complete failed attacks. The happened on the Cole
attack, and I beleive, on some Embassy bombings.

IMHO the airlines are the people that allowed 9/11 to happen. For
years the FAA had been asking the airlines to put locks on the cockpit
door, like the Israelies do. The airlines lobbied like crazy to be
allowed to "study it". And the never did it. Of course the Bad Guys
would try something else, but the wouldn't be able to take control of
a jumbo.


Just not true... Before 911 if a hijack had taken place
,even with locked doors , the pilots would have open the doors
when a couple of attendents had their necks cut. Hind sight
is always wonderful but before 911 every pilot would have
fiqured on a normal hijack and taking of the plane. Open the doors
and fly the plane to where ever they wished was the rule and had
happened many times in the past.

I wonder what training Israeli pilots are given. I bet they are told
to never open the door. And frankly, as a pilot, if suddenly the Stu's
stopped responding to calls on the PA system, or worse, I heard
screams, I'd _NEVER_ open the door. I'd declare an emergancy and head
for the nearest runway. That sounds like a no brainer. There are
grim scenarios here, but ex-military pilots are used to that. And
others can be trained.


Someone said that looking at an evet after the fact is like
looking out a clean rear view mirror... But at the time, your looking
at events through a dirty windshield in a fog with no lights....


The FBI/CIA/FAA culture that prevented the sharing of
information help. So did that fact that as of Spring 01 Ashcroft didn't
have terrorist on his list of the 7 highest priority issues, and that
Bush slashed the FBI terrorism budget buy a billiion in the summer of
01.

All of this was reported in the public press before 9/11/01.
I bet It wasn't reported on Fox Cable News.

One thing I haven't figured out is how Israeli pilots take a ****.






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"Al Dykes" wrote in message
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In article ,
Paul Mays wrote:

"Al Dykes" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
That's when tom clancy published his popular novel "Debt of Honor"
about terrorists flying a fuel-laden jet into the Capitol Building.
Now you know why condoleeza rice and others in the bush gang don't
want to testify to the 9-11 panel. Condi told us after 9-11 that no
one could have imagined such a thing could happen!!!! Sheeiiiit -
millions of americans were aware of this threat.

But that's fiction. Reality is even better;

One of the people that planned the 1993 World Trade Center bombing was
captured a couple of years later in the Philippines with a laptop. On
the laptop were plans to capture as many as 12 jumbos and crash them
into buildings, all at once.

These people thought the 1993 bomb was powerfull enough to take down
one of the WTC towers. It made a crater inside, the size of a
building, 6 floors high. Some people realized that one signature of AQ
is returning to complete failed attacks. The happened on the Cole
attack, and I beleive, on some Embassy bombings.

IMHO the airlines are the people that allowed 9/11 to happen. For
years the FAA had been asking the airlines to put locks on the cockpit
door, like the Israelies do. The airlines lobbied like crazy to be
allowed to "study it". And the never did it. Of course the Bad Guys
would try something else, but the wouldn't be able to take control of
a jumbo.


Just not true... Before 911 if a hijack had taken place
,even with locked doors , the pilots would have open the doors
when a couple of attendents had their necks cut. Hind sight
is always wonderful but before 911 every pilot would have
fiqured on a normal hijack and taking of the plane. Open the doors
and fly the plane to where ever they wished was the rule and had
happened many times in the past.

I wonder what training Israeli pilots are given. I bet they are told
to never open the door. And frankly, as a pilot, if suddenly the Stu's
stopped responding to calls on the PA system, or worse, I heard
screams, I'd _NEVER_ open the door. I'd declare an emergancy and head
for the nearest runway. That sounds like a no brainer. There are
grim scenarios here, but ex-military pilots are used to that. And
others can be trained.


All the pilot has to do is go into an aggressive drive and play with the
cabin pressure.
Every one would be unconscious faster than they could say hello.

"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message
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Clarke is just cashing in by selling books to weak minded liberals. I don't
really blame him for spinning for dollars.

"D.A. Tsenuf" wrote in message
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"Al Dykes" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Paul Mays wrote:

"Al Dykes" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
That's when tom clancy published his popular novel "Debt of Honor"
about terrorists flying a fuel-laden jet into the Capitol Building.
Now you know why condoleeza rice and others in the bush gang don't
want to testify to the 9-11 panel. Condi told us after 9-11 that no
one could have imagined such a thing could happen!!!! Sheeiiiit -
millions of americans were aware of this threat.

But that's fiction. Reality is even better;

One of the people that planned the 1993 World Trade Center bombing
was
captured a couple of years later in the Philippines with a laptop.
On
the laptop were plans to capture as many as 12 jumbos and crash them
into buildings, all at once.

These people thought the 1993 bomb was powerfull enough to take down
one of the WTC towers. It made a crater inside, the size of a
building, 6 floors high. Some people realized that one signature of
AQ
is returning to complete failed attacks. The happened on the Cole
attack, and I beleive, on some Embassy bombings.

IMHO the airlines are the people that allowed 9/11 to happen. For
years the FAA had been asking the airlines to put locks on the
cockpit
door, like the Israelies do. The airlines lobbied like crazy to be
allowed to "study it". And the never did it. Of course the Bad Guys
would try something else, but the wouldn't be able to take control of
a jumbo.


Just not true... Before 911 if a hijack had taken place
,even with locked doors , the pilots would have open the doors
when a couple of attendents had their necks cut. Hind sight
is always wonderful but before 911 every pilot would have
fiqured on a normal hijack and taking of the plane. Open the doors
and fly the plane to where ever they wished was the rule and had
happened many times in the past.

I wonder what training Israeli pilots are given. I bet they are told
to never open the door. And frankly, as a pilot, if suddenly the Stu's
stopped responding to calls on the PA system, or worse, I heard
screams, I'd _NEVER_ open the door. I'd declare an emergancy and head
for the nearest runway. That sounds like a no brainer. There are
grim scenarios here, but ex-military pilots are used to that. And
others can be trained.


All the pilot has to do is go into an aggressive drive and play with the
cabin pressure.
Every one would be unconscious faster than they could say hello.


And someone dies as a resultr and their family becomes the airline's new
owners.

-*MORT*-

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"D.A. Tsenuf" wrote in message
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"Al Dykes" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Paul Mays wrote:

"Al Dykes" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
That's when tom clancy published his popular novel "Debt of
Honor"
about terrorists flying a fuel-laden jet into the Capitol
Building.
Now you know why condoleeza rice and others in the bush gang don't
want to testify to the 9-11 panel. Condi told us after 9-11 that
no
one could have imagined such a thing could happen!!!! Sheeiiiit -
millions of americans were aware of this threat.

But that's fiction. Reality is even better;

One of the people that planned the 1993 World Trade Center bombing
was
captured a couple of years later in the Philippines with a laptop.
On
the laptop were plans to capture as many as 12 jumbos and crash
them
into buildings, all at once.

These people thought the 1993 bomb was powerfull enough to take
down
one of the WTC towers. It made a crater inside, the size of a
building, 6 floors high. Some people realized that one signature of
AQ
is returning to complete failed attacks. The happened on the Cole
attack, and I beleive, on some Embassy bombings.

IMHO the airlines are the people that allowed 9/11 to happen. For
years the FAA had been asking the airlines to put locks on the
cockpit
door, like the Israelies do. The airlines lobbied like crazy to be
allowed to "study it". And the never did it. Of course the Bad Guys
would try something else, but the wouldn't be able to take control
of
a jumbo.


Just not true... Before 911 if a hijack had taken place
,even with locked doors , the pilots would have open the doors
when a couple of attendents had their necks cut. Hind sight
is always wonderful but before 911 every pilot would have
fiqured on a normal hijack and taking of the plane. Open the doors
and fly the plane to where ever they wished was the rule and had
happened many times in the past.

I wonder what training Israeli pilots are given. I bet they are told
to never open the door. And frankly, as a pilot, if suddenly the Stu's
stopped responding to calls on the PA system, or worse, I heard
screams, I'd _NEVER_ open the door. I'd declare an emergancy and head
for the nearest runway. That sounds like a no brainer. There are
grim scenarios here, but ex-military pilots are used to that. And
others can be trained.


All the pilot has to do is go into an aggressive drive and play with the
cabin pressure.
Every one would be unconscious faster than they could say hello.


And someone dies as a resultr and their family becomes the airline's new
owners.

-*MORT*-




Nah..
All bets are off if there is a hijacking.

****, why didn't President Clinton stop them then?

BVlech