russian jet pilots in korean war?

Cub Driver wrote in message . ..

On 15 Mar 2004 21:36:40 -0800, (Dazuixia) wrote:

You know I was right

Actually, I know you are wrong.

That is the reason you delete the FACTS I provided? FACT is that at 1950, USA,
both Korea governments, rest of the world all thought Korea was one
SINGLE independent country. Be coward and bury your head into sand
seems make you feel really good. What can I say!

The first foreign army to enter South Korean was the In Min Gun.

Are you telling me first foreign army to enter the CSA was the Yankees
Led by Lincoln? You are not only IGNORANT but also cannot learn.

Since I have proved that including U.S. of A. thought Korea was a SINGLE
Country and that is why U.S. of A. proposed an UNIVERSAL election in WHOLE
Korea in UN. How NK army was the FOREIGN ARMY? Because they were white rather
than Koreans?

Even USA government DID NOT say NK army were foreign army. You are free
to insist to refuse the FACTS. Is this a common tactic you learned from
your school age?

The Americans came along about a week later.

As an barbaric invasion army to the independent sovereign country
Korea, or may be those armies are white Koreans, that will be very
interesting.

It is this invasion army who conducted barbaric
killing to South Korean civilians intentionally:
"In the summer of 1950, U.S. military forces opened fire on a group of
South Korean refugees at a railroad trestle near the village of No Gun Ri.
Survivors said hundreds died, mostly women and children. Retreating U.S.
commanders had issued orders to shoot approaching civilians to guard
against North Korean infiltrators among refugee columns."
Refer: http://www.henryholt.com/nogunri/


Have a nice day!

Dazuixia

On 16 Mar 2004 22:15:02 -0800, (Dazuixia) wrote:

, rest of the world all thought Korea was one
SINGLE independent country. B

Curious that the United Nations didn't think so, then! The Security
Council voted 7-1 to send troops to repel the In Min Gun. Later, the
General Assembly voted (something like) 45-7 to order MacArthur to
occupy North Korea, thus indicating that if it were to be a single
country after the North Korean invasion, then it should be unified
under the UN army.

My friend, I tire of your rants. You have now been plonked.

(I recommend Agent to all newsgroup readers who would like to remain
sane.)

all the best -- Dan Ford
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Cub Driver wrote in message . ..

On 16 Mar 2004 22:15:02 -0800, (Dazuixia) wrote:

, rest of the world all thought Korea was one
SINGLE independent country. B

Curious that the United Nations didn't think so, then!

Curious, do you know what United Nations thought? The NK was ANOTHER
FOREIGN country of SK? Please provide your evidence. Like many
Americans hanging on SSC, you know ZERO about the topic but like
to speak before you learn the FACTs.

The Security Council voted 7-1 to send troops to repel the In Min Gun.

Yes, but not because the UN thought NK was a FOREING country. That time,
most of UN countries were USA puppets. The peace loving country China,
(PRC government) even not was in UN. Both PRC and USSR should have the
veto power and both of them were not in the meeting. USSR was boycotting
the UN because UN refuse to let the government who could real represent
China to be in UN. If either of them were in the SSC meeting, the
resolution would not be passed due to their veto power. Also
the India did not vote to favor the resolution. The people in India,
USSR, China were almost half of the people in the world.

Now the countries in UN are more independent and do not want to be
USA puppets any more. Now US treat UN like a piece of ****. Owe big
money to UN, talking about, even conducting the barbaric invasion
without UN approval. You should know the current FACT very well, right?
E.g. USA conducts the barbaric invasion to Iraq against 80% of UN members
opposition, not mention the reason given by Bush government was a
pure LIE as most of USA invasion wars. Examples that USA used LIES
to start barbaric invasion: 100,000 Albanians were murdered and ethnic
cleaning happened in Kosovo, using this LIE USA kill thousands innocent
people of Yugoslavia. Token Bay incident (NV gun boat attacked USA strong
navy), multi millions innocent Vietnamese were killed by USA barbaric
invasion started with this LIE. In Iraq tens of thousands innocent Iraqies
were killed by the barbaric invasion of USA under the LIE WMD.

NOTE: none of these barbaric invasion USA got the approval from UN. So
UN just a tool, if it could be used to conduct a barbaric invasion to
other weak independent sovereign countries, then use it. Otherwise,
UN is nothing as Bush government show us.

Later, the General Assembly voted (something like) 45-7 to order MacArthur to
occupy North Korea, thus indicating that if it were to be a single
country after the North Korean invasion, then it should be unified
under the UN army.


Should be unified under USA army and become semi-colony of USA. You are
showing your true FACE, right? If Korea was a puppet country or semi-colony
of USA, she could be viewed as a SINGLE country. Other wise the part which
was not governed by USA puppet should be viewed as a FOREIGN country.
Are you really that hypocritical to use obvious double standards?

I wonder how could you have a straight face to believe the Korea should
be only unified by the white westerner armies (whether you call it UN or not)
but not the Native Korean army? You know what, in last two hundreds years,
we have seen a lot of this kind of believers. Whether they were in No
Sunset UK, in NZ Germany, or in the country where 90% Native Indians were
ethnic cleaned. You feel to be proud of this history, but rest of the world
may call it as shameless colonist and imperialism. It is hard to hope
the peace loving people to have a same view on these aspects with
the descendants of the colonists and imperialists. Both of us could
hold our own views. When Iraq war has been proved to be started
using a straight WMD LIE, more than 60% of people in a country who likes
the to fight the wars to bully weak countries still support this barbaric
invasion war. Same time they believe they are model of the world.
What a pity!

Here are some REAL FACTS rather than YOUR FAKE ones.

On June 25, 1950, i.e. the day NK started Korea CIVIL WAR,
UN passed a resolution: 28 (1950) Resolution June 1950. It said:
"Mindful of the concern expressed by the General Assembly in its resolutions
195 (II) of 12 December 1948 and 293 (IV) of 21 October 1949 about the
consequences which might follow unless Member States refrained from acts
derogatory to the results sought to be achieved by the United Nations in
bringing about the complete independence and unity of Korea." ...

"Determines that this action (NK offense) constitutes a breach of the peace;
and ..."

UN first confirmed the goal to "bringing about the complete independence
and unity of Korea". By saying this, UN did treat Korea as one independence
sovereign country though it was governed by two separate governments.

Yes, the offense of NK was "a breach of the peace" in Korea. So was the
unification war in U.S. of A. fought by President Lincoln led North Yankees.
Neither cases should validate the foreign imperialist army to invade either
Korea or United States.

My friend, I tire of your rants. You have now been plonked.


When your IGNORANCE, inconsistency, hypocrisy, double
standards, even LIES are exposed to the netters by some more knowledgeable
person, if I were you, I would make similar claim you did. You have all
my sympathy.

Again, keep learning the FACTS, then you will be smarter than you are!

Have a nice day!

Dazuixia

(I recommend Agent to all newsgroup readers who would like to remain
sane.)

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (requires authentication)

see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com
and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com

"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message ...
"Dazuixia" wrote in message
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Cub Driver wrote in message
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It was the Korea CIVIL WAR before USA invasion.

North Korea's army, under the direction of its government in
Pyongyang, invaded South Korea across an internationally recognized
border or demarcation line.

I have answered this questions in the statements right after the statement
you are commenting. You know I was right and then you delete them.
Here I re-quote:
" USA army was
the FIRST FOREIGN army entered Korea CIVIL WAR. In 1950, including USA saw
Korea as a WHOLE country. Both Korea governments also thought this way.
In late 1940s, USA initiated a resolution in UN to hold an election in
WHOLE Korea and the resolution was passed. So clearly Korea was viewed
by both USA and UN as an SINGLE independent country rather than two
separate
countries. However, the elections were hold separately and two governments
were elected. So, before USA army invaded Korea, there was Korea CIVIL
WAR and the aggressor in the CIVIL war was NK.

The UN decided otherwise. The force deployed in Korea was US led
but its intervention was mandated by the UN security council and
troops from many other nations took part.


When many UN countries were USA puppets. Only USA army made sense
(may be one UK and one Turkey brigade were two others had little real
armies) in the war. Rest of countries in 17 allies were nothing.
You may call the USA, UK barbaric invasion to Iraq as the invasion
by 'troops from many other nations' since it contained way more 'nations'.
However, rest of the world know it was a typical unilateral action.
Do you know in most of the countries who support USA invaion to Iraq,
most of the people oppose this barbaric invasion war, only their leaders
were bribed by little Bush?

You know, now USA treat UN as **** when UN could not be USA puppet any more,
right?



It is the internal affairs
of Korea and UN charter clearly prevent FOREIGN forces to intervene
the internal affairs of an independent country, especially military
invasion intervention.

On the contrary the action in Korea was specifically authorised by
the UN resolutions 82,83,84 and 85 of 1950


None of then said NK was a FOREIGN country. As I said, that time UN was
a puppet of USA. Now USA treat UN as a **** when she is not a puppet of
USA any more.

Here was a post I respond to your ally Cub Driver ,
it used a lot of FACTS and answered all your questions. Keep learning,
you will be smarter.
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On 16 Mar 2004 22:15:02 -0800, (Dazuixia) wrote:

, rest of the world all thought Korea was one
SINGLE independent country. B

Curious that the United Nations didn't think so, then!

Curious, do you know what United Nations thought? The NK was ANOTHER
FOREIGN country of SK? Please provide your evidence. Like many
Americans hanging on SSC, you know ZERO about the topic but like
to speak before you learn the FACTs.

The Security Council voted 7-1 to send troops to repel the In Min Gun.

Yes, but not because the UN thought NK was a FOREING country. That time,
most of UN countries were USA puppets. The peace loving country China,
(PRC government) even not was in UN. Both PRC and USSR should have the
veto power and both of them were not in the meeting. USSR was boycotting
the UN because UN refuse to let the government who could real represent
China to be in UN. If either of them were in the SSC meeting, the
resolution would not be passed due to their veto power. Also
the India did not vote to favor the resolution. The people in India,
USSR, China were almost half of the people in the world.

Now the countries in UN are more independent and do not want to be
USA puppets any more. Now US treat UN like a piece of ****. Owe big
money to UN, talking about, even conducting the barbaric invasion
without UN approval. You should know the current FACT very well, right?
E.g. USA conducts the barbaric invasion to Iraq against 80% of UN members
opposition, not mention the reason given by Bush government was a
pure LIE as most of USA invasion wars. Examples that USA used LIES
to start barbaric invasion: 100,000 Albanians were murdered and ethnic
cleaning happened in Kosovo, using this LIE USA kill thousands innocent
people of Yugoslavia. Token Bay incident (NV gun boat attacked USA strong
navy), multi millions innocent Vietnamese were killed by USA barbaric
invasion started with this LIE. In Iraq tens of thousands innocent Iraqies
were killed by the barbaric invasion of USA under the LIE WMD.

NOTE: none of these barbaric invasion USA got the approval from UN. So
UN just a tool, if it could be used to conduct a barbaric invasion to
other weak independent sovereign countries, then use it. Otherwise,
UN is nothing as Bush government show us.

Later, the General Assembly voted (something like) 45-7 to order MacArthur to
occupy North Korea, thus indicating that if it were to be a single
country after the North Korean invasion, then it should be unified
under the UN army.


Should be unified under USA army and become semi-colony of USA. You are
showing your true FACE, right? If Korea was a puppet country or semi-colony
of USA, she could be viewed as a SINGLE country. Other wise the part which
was not governed by USA puppet should be viewed as a FOREIGN country.
Are you really that hypocritical to use obvious double standards?

I wonder how could you have a straight face to believe the Korea should
be only unified by the white westerner armies (whether you call it UN or not)
but not the Native Korean army? You know what, in last two hundreds years,
we have seen a lot of this kind of believers. Whether they were in No
Sunset UK, in NZ Germany, or in the country where 90% Native Indians were
ethnic cleaned. You feel to be proud of this history, but rest of the world
may call it as shameless colonist and imperialism. It is hard to hope
the peace loving people to have a same view on these aspects with
the descendants of the colonists and imperialists. Both of us could
hold our own views. When Iraq war has been proved to be started
using a straight WMD LIE, more than 60% of people in a country who likes
the to fight the wars to bully weak countries still support this barbaric
invasion war. Same time they believe they are model of the world.
What a pity!

Here are some REAL FACTS rather than YOUR FAKE ones.

On June 25, 1950, i.e. the day NK started Korea CIVIL WAR,
UN passed a resolution: 28 (1950) Resolution June 1950. It said:
"Mindful of the concern expressed by the General Assembly in its resolutions
195 (II) of 12 December 1948 and 293 (IV) of 21 October 1949 about the
consequences which might follow unless Member States refrained from acts
derogatory to the results sought to be achieved by the United Nations in
bringing about the complete independence and unity of Korea." ...

"Determines that this action (NK offense) constitutes a breach of the peace;
and ..."

UN first confirmed the goal to "bringing about the complete independence
and unity of Korea". By saying this, UN did treat Korea as one independence
sovereign country though it was governed by two separate governments.

Yes, the offense of NK was "a breach of the peace" in Korea. So was the
unification war in U.S. of A. fought by President Lincoln led North Yankees.
Neither cases should validate the foreign imperialist army to invade either
Korea or United States.

My friend, I tire of your rants. You have now been plonked.


When your IGNORANCE, inconsistency, hypocrisy, double
standards, even LIES are exposed to the netters by some more knowledgeable
person, if I were you, I would make similar claim you did. You have all
my sympathy.

Again, keep learning the FACTS, then you will be smarter than you are!

Have a nice day!

Dazuixia

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Have a nice weekend!

Dazuixia

Keith