Grandmother Goes Down at the Pole

On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:49:56 +1300, Mainlander *@*.* wrote:

In article ,
says...


Bruce Hamilton wrote:
Cub Driver wrote:


It's getting awfully crowded down there (or up there, in terms of
latitude). No wonder the folks at McMurdo were so unfriendly to the
Kiwi who dropped in without enough fuel to reach his destination.


Just to help your understanding of global political dynamics, the West Island
of New Zealand is where the pilot originated, and both the NZ and US base
refused to provide Avgas because:-

1. They didn't have any, and didn't want to give him Mogas.

2. He didn't seek advance permission to land at McMurdo ( as required ),
probably correctly assuming they would reject it, given his inadequate
planning.

3. He didn't organise logistic or search and rescue support in advance or take
notice of Antarctic station guidances - as did the British pilot who gave
him some of her contingency, as her well-planned expedition had been been
deferred.

4. He apparently wasn't carrying enough fuel for his stated objected, so
always intended to scavenge several hundred litres of fuel from a base. He
radioed the base on his southward journey saying he didn't have enough fuel,
but continued onto the point of no return and the South Pole anyway.

Once again another armchair quarterback that does not know what they are talking
about.

Referring to yourself are you?

Mr Hamilton's post is the best summary of the facts I have seen.

Antarctic flying conditions are so unpredictable that it is not unusual
for planes to have to fly all the way down and all the way back without
landing if the weather closes in in the few hours that it takes to fly
out of Christchurch.


The LC-130's have a PSR of approx 4 hrs out from CHC.
At that time, they must commit or return.

I am very aware of one instance where one was past PSR and declared an
emergency. Mac Tower said return to CHC as they could not handle it.
Rapid calculations were made and it was found they barely had enough
fuel to reach NZ.

As it turned out, the pilot, also the CO of VXE-6 at the time, had
enough fuel to make one only shot at landing at Dunedin's Momona
Airport. The FE. a family friend, after the flight returned to CHC
said in all his years of flying, which included that year being his
approx 8th Antarctic season, he'd never had such a close shave.

What saved their bacon was the CO had taken part in an exchange
programme with the RNZAF and had flown into Momona several times in
Kiwi C-130's so he knew the approach etc.

I was at the hanger waiting with the men and women of 6 waiting for
this flight to make it back to NZ as my fiance was on this flight .
We all knew there was the risk of ditching.

For those that remember the mid-winter mail drops, the C-141-B's on
the Pole run were refuelled three times in mid-air by a KC-10.

I've known many pilots that have served in 6 and the USAF. None will
tell you it's a breeze flying the Antarctic route.

Some may remember the crash when a JATO bottle wrenched loose on
takeoff and the subsequent crash of the plane that went in to rescue
to the original crew. [I think I still have the photos of this
somewhere].
Then the crash of a further plane that went in a few years later - a
flight several friends died or were badly injured in.

Cath

Ummm ...

We don't have a West Island.

He's an Aussie who started his trip from the lower part of our South Island.



Just to help your understanding of global political dynamics, the West
Island
of New Zealand is where the pilot originated, and both the NZ and US base
refused to provide Avgas because:-

Cub Driver wrote:

It's getting awfully crowded down there (or up there, in terms of
latitude).

Well, it *is* the Summer vacation period down there.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

Point of order Mr Chairman ...

He was a bloody Aussie, not a Kiwi


"Cub Driver" wrote in message
...

It's getting awfully crowded down there (or up there, in terms of
latitude). No wonder the folks at McMurdo were so unfriendly to the
Kiwi who dropped in without enough fuel to reach his destination.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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Newsflash!

Plane goes down on an unprecedent flight... nowhere near the South Pole and
not attempting to set a record!!!

Details on the 11 o'clock news.

=D

Newsflash!

Plane goes down on an unprecedent flight... nowhere near the South Pole and
not attempting to set a record!!!

Details on the 11 o'clock news.

=D

On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 10:17:31 +1000, BJ wrote:

http://www.falklandnews.com/public/s...2549&source=12
"Following the reception of a distress call early this morning, a
massive search for 63 year-old Jenny Murray and her co-pilot, Colin
Bodil began and culminated in their successful rescue.

It was thought that the pair, who were attempting to be the first
people to fly around the world from pole to pole had ditched in the
icy waters south of the Falkland Islands. Though Mrs. Murray
sustained a broken arm and her co-pilot suffered chest injuries, they
erected a tent in -40C temperatures.

The 63 year old Grandmother and her co-pilot will be flown to Punta
Arenas in Chile for Medical treatment."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1014182.htm
"Helicopter pilot Jennifer Murray, 63, suffered a broken arm, while
co-pilot Colin Bodill, 53, has chest injuries, information sent from
the US Antarctic base of Patriot Hill says, which organised the
rescue".

Hmmm - sic 'em boys.

I am going to apologise to any prudes here first off for either my
weird sense of humour or my gutter mind, I can't work out which. The
reason for my apology is the rather ambiguous subject header. The
little snippet at the end tends to lend support as well.


Nelly.
If you see someone without a smile, give them one of yours :-)

("Nelly" wrote)
I am going to apologise to any prudes here first off for either my
weird sense of humour or my gutter mind, I can't work out which. The
reason for my apology is the rather ambiguous subject header.


The Grandmother header

I accept your gutter mind, .....I mean your apologies. g

--
Montblack
http://lumma.de/mt/archives/bart.gif

I am going to apologise to any prudes here first off for either my
weird sense of humour or my gutter mind, I can't work out which. The
reason for my apology is the rather ambiguous subject header. The
little snippet at the end tends to lend support as well.

That also struck me immediately. I thought that we were going to be
redirected to alt.binaries.pictures . . . . . . . .


--

Tony Roberts
PP-ASEL
VFR OTT
Night
Almost Instrument
Cessna 172H C-GICE

Bah. First I'd heard about this, not read much aviation press
recently.

http://www.polarfirst.com/html/press.php?recno=4

I see the helicopter they were flying was a Bell 407. Jennifer's
previous round the world record flights were all in an R-44, with
"Q" (Quentin Smith) either as co-pilot (1996) or flying another
helicopter (another R-44) alongside, with Colin Bodil flying his
microlight (2000).

http://www.earthrounders.com/other.html

Polly Vacher is also on her way to circumnavigate the world
via the two poles (having done it the "easy" way in 2001) in
her Piper Dakota.

http://www.worldwings.org/
http://www.earthrounders.com/singles.html

Paul

"BJ" wrote in message
...
http://www.falklandnews.com/public/s...2549&source=12
"Following the reception of a distress call early this morning, a
massive search for 63 year-old Jenny Murray and her co-pilot, Colin
Bodil began and culminated in their successful rescue.