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Old January 6th 05, 02:40 PM
Gary G
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Hi folks - I'm somewhat new to flying.

I heard references to "forward slip" to get rid of altitude on approach.

Can someone give me the 2 sentence (or how ever many is adequate) to
what a forward slip procedure is?

Thanks!

Gary


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Old January 6th 05, 02:56 PM
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Slip into the wind. Add hard right rudder, turn the yoke hard left,
add some forwad pressure. This exposes more of the surface to the
wind, and you're able to loss more altitude, without a noticable gain
in airspeed. Some aircraft prhobit slips with flaps extended, others
make no mention.

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Old January 6th 05, 03:44 PM
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On 2005-01-06, 569 wrote:

wind, and you're able to loss more altitude, without a noticable gain
in airspeed. Some aircraft prhobit slips with flaps extended, others


Also note that some of the older aircraft and some of the present homebuilts
and experimentals had no flaps, so this was the main method of losing
altitude on landing approach if a steep glide path was needed, such as over
obstacles. A good reason this is needed and should be practiced today is in
the event the flaps become inoperative in the case of an engine out or other
emergency.

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Old January 6th 05, 06:33 PM
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Edwin Johnson wrote:

Also note that some of the older aircraft and some of the present homebuilts
and experimentals had no flaps,


And even others don't have enough forward view, so flying sideways is
the only possibility to see the runway on final.

Stefan
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Old January 6th 05, 04:04 PM
Peter R.
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569 ) wrote:

Some aircraft prhobit slips with flaps extended,


Which ones?

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Old January 6th 05, 04:51 PM
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The Cessna 172R has a placard, "Avoid Slips with Flaps Extended". Now
it says, "avoid". It does not say that you can't do it. There was a
discussion in Flight Training Mag about 6 months ago that talked about
that same thing. In the Cessna 152 I always have full flaps in a slip.
I don;t truely understand why having flaps is a problem in the 172R.

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Old January 6th 05, 07:57 PM
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"569" wrote in message news:
The Cessna 172R has a placard, "Avoid Slips with Flaps Extended". Now
it says, "avoid". It does not say that you can't do it. There was a
discussion in Flight Training Mag about 6 months ago that talked about
that same thing. In the Cessna 152 I always have full flaps in a slip.
I don;t truely understand why having flaps is a problem in the 172R.


The aircraft tends to oscillate on the pitch axis. It's never been shown to
be a hazard though. Just feels a bit weird.

le m


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Old January 6th 05, 05:00 PM
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Cessna 172M

"Avoid slips with full flap extension"



Peter R. wrote:
569 ) wrote:

Some aircraft prhobit slips with flaps extended,


Which ones?


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Old January 6th 05, 05:09 PM
Peter R.
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) wrote:

Cessna 172M

"Avoid slips with full flap extension"


Are the words "avoid" and "prohibited" interchangeable?

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Old January 6th 05, 05:19 PM
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In the context it is used, and for my level of flying experience, yes they
are interchangeable. I do not know more about the danger of this than
Cessna, so I would prefer to trust what they say. You level of experience
is certainly different that mine, so your decision may be different than
mine.

That is not say that in the event of emergency I would not perform a slip
to land with full flaps if the need dictated.


Peter R. wrote:
) wrote:

Cessna 172M

"Avoid slips with full flap extension"


Are the words "avoid" and "prohibited" interchangeable?


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