'Good' Annual This Year

"Ben Smith" wrote in message
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Yes, the airframe and engine logbooks state that approved checklists were
used. Why, is 16.5 not enough time for a 172?

"Jim Vadek" wrote
16.5 hours for a thorough inspection with all the manufacturer's
checklist
items completed?

I created the wrong impression, sorry. That is good time for an annual and
the reason I asked the question is that mine runs about 25 hours with
preventative stuff thrown in.

Most A&Ps I know would say that 16.5 hours is enough to do the job. Sounds
like you had a pretty good year.

I find that I am always fixing something during the year in addition to
whatever is done during the annual. Sometime I will have to go through all
the logs and figure out what the real annualized costs are for my
maintenance. The result would of course fall under the rules of "double
secret probation" and not be shared with the wife : -)

"Ben Smith" wrote in message
...
Yes, the airframe and engine logbooks state that approved checklists were
used. Why, is 16.5 not enough time for a 172?

"Jim Vadek" wrote
16.5 hours for a thorough inspection with all the manufacturer's
checklist
items completed?

damn, my shop charges $1100 for the inspection alone. then its like 65$ an hour
to fix the gigs. My annual 2 months ago was $5000.00 on my Turbo Arrow III, most
was in parts and labor for the gear and some seals in the engine that needed
replaced. They also charged me 35$ to put in in my tires.


Ben Smith wrote:

Thought I'd make a quick post about our annual this year. Came in just over
$1k, for the normal inspection, plus:

New EGT probe (EGT was inop)
New Brackett air filter housing. (Due to AD?)
ELT Battery
Gaskets... #1, #2, & #3 valve covers, dipstick tube, both mags, and pushrod
tubes on #1.
New Voltage Regulator. (we had intermittant charging problems)
'Installed' autogas STC, filed paperwork, etc.

About 16.5 hours of labor all together. Another lucky year!

--
Ben
C-172 - N13258 @ 87Y

That is the key point of information... Time to start shopping for a new
mechanic...
Denny
"Jeff" wrote in message ...
They also charged me 35$ to put in in my tires.

"Jeff" wrote
They also charged me 35$ to put in in my tires.

"Dennis O'Connor" wrote
That is the key point of information... Time to start shopping for a new
mechanic...

I don't think that's true at all. $35 to install tires is quite a
reasonable labor charge. Of course the owner can legally do it
himself - but not every owner wants to.

A proper annual on a complex airplane is going to cost $5000 if you
drop off the keys and the checkbook. My PA-30 needs 50-100 hours at
annual to open everything up, go up on jacks, do a proper inspection,
repair all the minor discrepancies that inevitably come up, comply
with the recurrent AD's, and button it up again. I can't see that it
would be much less for a Turbo Arrow.

I don't pay near that much because I do most of that 50-100 hours
myself, but that's not something everyone wants to do.

Michael

it wasnt 35 to install tires, it was 35$ to put air in them.
..5 hours labor is what I was charged.

Michael wrote:

"Jeff" wrote
They also charged me 35$ to put in in my tires.

"Dennis O'Connor" wrote
That is the key point of information... Time to start shopping for a new
mechanic...

I don't think that's true at all. $35 to install tires is quite a
reasonable labor charge. Of course the owner can legally do it
himself - but not every owner wants to.

A proper annual on a complex airplane is going to cost $5000 if you
drop off the keys and the checkbook. My PA-30 needs 50-100 hours at
annual to open everything up, go up on jacks, do a proper inspection,
repair all the minor discrepancies that inevitably come up, comply
with the recurrent AD's, and button it up again. I can't see that it
would be much less for a Turbo Arrow.

I don't pay near that much because I do most of that 50-100 hours
myself, but that's not something everyone wants to do.

Michael

"Jeff" wrote in message ...
it wasnt 35 to install tires, it was 35$ to put air in them.
.5 hours labor is what I was charged.

Your shop gets $70/hour? Crikes....

Jeff wrote
it wasnt 35 to install tires, it was 35$ to put air in them.
.5 hours labor is what I was charged.

That sounds excessive.

Unless there's something funky about your tires (maybe some difficult
to remove/reinstall covers) it should not take 10 minutes a tire to
air them.

Michael

Jeff wrote:
damn, my shop charges $1100 for the inspection alone. then its like 65$ an hour
to fix the gigs. My annual 2 months ago was $5000.00 on my Turbo Arrow III, most
was in parts and labor for the gear and some seals in the engine that needed
replaced. They also charged me 35$ to put in in my tires.

$1100 doesn't seem unreasonable for the inspection of a Turbo Arrow. $65
per hour also isn't that unreasonable, if you consider what a lot of auto
shops charge per hour. And finally, $35 to install tires isn't that bad.
It probably has a lot to do with what area of the country you live in.

-- Jay

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Feels good to stay on top of it, this normally keeps the inspections
reasonable. I did mine a couple of weeks ago & it was under $900.00, this
included a new muffler. I'm all smiles.
Clyde

"Ben Smith" wrote in message
...
Thought I'd make a quick post about our annual this year. Came in just
over
$1k, for the normal inspection, plus:

New EGT probe (EGT was inop)
New Brackett air filter housing. (Due to AD?)
ELT Battery
Gaskets... #1, #2, & #3 valve covers, dipstick tube, both mags, and
pushrod
tubes on #1.
New Voltage Regulator. (we had intermittant charging problems)
'Installed' autogas STC, filed paperwork, etc.

About 16.5 hours of labor all together. Another lucky year!

--
Ben
C-172 - N13258 @ 87Y