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Attended a nice airshow at the Barnes ANGB, Westfield Mass yesterday.
Had the chance to speak with a Lt Col alongside his Otis based F-15A. I was aware BRAC voted to close the Otis ANGB but hadn't spotted a thing about who would be picking up that tasking. To my surprise he replied they were keeping the tasking but moving to Barnes. He was openly questioning whether the BRAC panel had the full picture. Instead of launching for intercepts with unrestricted climbs and sonic speeds they would now have to weave their way through a maze of airways traffic. One can only guess the impact that will have on the time to intercept. |
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"Jim" wrote in message ... Attended a nice airshow at the Barnes ANGB, Westfield Mass yesterday. Had the chance to speak with a Lt Col alongside his Otis based F-15A. I was aware BRAC voted to close the Otis ANGB but hadn't spotted a thing about who would be picking up that tasking. To my surprise he replied they were keeping the tasking but moving to Barnes. He was openly questioning whether the BRAC panel had the full picture. Instead of launching for intercepts with unrestricted climbs and sonic speeds they would now have to weave their way through a maze of airways traffic. One can only guess the impact that will have on the time to intercept. Interesting, yes. Barnes had a lower military value than Otis. The commission generally favored higher military value, but they seemed a bit queer for the Northeast. Moved tankers to Bangor and Pease (both low mil value), kept New London and Portsmouth open even though their staff told 'em the DoD argument to close didn't deviate from the BRAC guidance. I've done BRAC since 91 as a volunteer consultant. Helped with community presentations, briefed congressional, military, brac staff. Watched the game play out. This commission was the most independent, least consistent, most illogical of the four. Perhaps this commission was too smart for its (our?) own good. R / John |
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"John Carrier" wrote in message
... I've done BRAC since 91 as a volunteer consultant. Helped with community presentations, briefed congressional, military, brac staff. Watched the game play out. This commission was the most independent, least consistent, most illogical of the four. Perhaps this commission was too smart for its (our?) own good. I see where the BRAC voted to move 2,250 RDT&E jobs from NAWC Point Mugu to China Lake. Doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. I don't think many of the 2,250 people will sell their nice homes in Ventura county to move the middle of the desert - so it will be another brain drain for the Navy. Hopefully, by the time they convince 2,250 new hires to move the middle of the desert and train them, they will feel like they got their money's worth out of that decision. JD |
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"Joe Delphi" wrote in message news:ZdxQe.137444$E95.133853@fed1read01... "John Carrier" wrote in message ... I've done BRAC since 91 as a volunteer consultant. Helped with community presentations, briefed congressional, military, brac staff. Watched the game play out. This commission was the most independent, least consistent, most illogical of the four. Perhaps this commission was too smart for its (our?) own good. I see where the BRAC voted to move 2,250 RDT&E jobs from NAWC Point Mugu to China Lake. Doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. I don't think many of the 2,250 people will sell their nice homes in Ventura county to move the middle of the desert - so it will be another brain drain for the Navy. Hopefully, by the time they convince 2,250 new hires to move the middle of the desert and train them, they will feel like they got their money's worth out of that decision. JD A good point. Had several friends that did China Lake tours and they LOVED the experience, but giving up the left coast lifestyle (particularly if you're not being beaten about the head and shoulders by a mortgage payment you don't really want to afford) for Ridgecrest would be a shock. R / John |
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John Carrier wrote:
"Joe Delphi" wrote in message news:ZdxQe.137444$E95.133853@fed1read01... "John Carrier" wrote in message ... I've done BRAC since 91 as a volunteer consultant. Helped with community presentations, briefed congressional, military, brac staff. Watched the game play out. This commission was the most independent, least consistent, most illogical of the four. Perhaps this commission was too smart for its (our?) own good. I see where the BRAC voted to move 2,250 RDT&E jobs from NAWC Point Mugu to China Lake. Doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. I don't think many of the 2,250 people will sell their nice homes in Ventura county to move the middle of the desert - so it will be another brain drain for the Navy. Hopefully, by the time they convince 2,250 new hires to move the middle of the desert and train them, they will feel like they got their money's worth out of that decision. JD A good point. Had several friends that did China Lake tours and they LOVED the experience, but giving up the left coast lifestyle (particularly if you're not being beaten about the head and shoulders by a mortgage payment you don't really want to afford) for Ridgecrest would be a shock. Basically the sort has been made. There are many people who love the desert, and they are at China Lake. There are many who don't, and they are elsewhere. It's doubtful if there are many at Point Mugu who feel they have made the wrong choice, so I expect many will not take the transfer. |
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"Merlin Dorfman" wrote in message ... John Carrier wrote: "Joe Delphi" wrote in message news:ZdxQe.137444$E95.133853@fed1read01... "John Carrier" wrote in message ... I've done BRAC since 91 as a volunteer consultant. Helped with community presentations, briefed congressional, military, brac staff. Watched the game play out. This commission was the most independent, least consistent, most illogical of the four. Perhaps this commission was too smart for its (our?) own good. I see where the BRAC voted to move 2,250 RDT&E jobs from NAWC Point Mugu to China Lake. Doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. I don't think many of the 2,250 people will sell their nice homes in Ventura county to move the middle of the desert - so it will be another brain drain for the Navy. Hopefully, by the time they convince 2,250 new hires to move the middle of the desert and train them, they will feel like they got their money's worth out of that decision. JD A good point. Had several friends that did China Lake tours and they LOVED the experience, but giving up the left coast lifestyle (particularly if you're not being beaten about the head and shoulders by a mortgage payment you don't really want to afford) for Ridgecrest would be a shock. Basically the sort has been made. There are many people who love the desert, and they are at China Lake. There are many who don't, and they are elsewhere. It's doubtful if there are many at Point Mugu who feel they have made the wrong choice, so I expect many will not take the transfer. It is hard to argue with that statement. I spent 1969 at Pt. Mugu-now NAS Ventura County @Pt. Mugu. I was at Naval Missile Center doing work on F-8s, F4s-A and B, and also got to watch F111 trials and the occasional U-2. EC-121s doing flights over the then recent Santa Barbara oil spills and tests of what became the Harrier. The base had killer whales and porpoises out by the beach which was almost untouched by any development. A great place for lunch! And best of all, it did not put out to sea! I would not want to make that move to the desert. One week or so at 29 Palms cured me of that. |
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