Bible-beater pilots

"Tom S." wrote in message
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| And let's not get into the infinite regression that a concept of "god"
| requires.
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No, let's not. After all, I personally am very religious. Worse, in the eyes
of many here, I am a Mormon. My concept of God does not require infinite
regression. However, I have no interest in any serious discussion of
religious belief in this forum. (Some would argue that I have no interest in
serious discussion of any topic.) :-)

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:Wwfvb.262377$Fm2.278122@attbi_s04...
Anyone ever run into this before? What did you do?

Jay,

I always tell my clients that the easiest thing to do is to simply
tell the truth. This is sometimes so easy and obvious that people
just overlook it. Next time something like this occurs, simply say:

I understand your feelings about this, but discussing religion is
not something I want to do. I met you guys at the airport and
recognized a common interest in flying. That's why we sat down here.
So, tell me about that nice Mooney you have... .


BTW, I got a big laugh out of the story; I could just hear these
guys, and feel your discomfort.

Steve M

We served from the side.


Jim




Don Tuite
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

-On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:22:32 -0800, Jim Weir wrote:
-
-Dunno. I was wearing one of those black dresses with the white blouse at the
-time. I always saw him from the front {;-)
-
-Maybe at the Lavabo. But you had to be behind him to hold up the
-chasuble and tinkle the bell.
-
-Don

Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

"Teacherjh" wrote in message
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| Nope, do the same with an English translation of the Koran. That'll
| *REALLY* get people excited.
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| Or be fair: equal numbers of KJV Bibles, translated Korans, Torahs, and
| one or two others; guests take potluck on what religious propaganda
| they've got in their rooms!
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| Hey, I'm an agnostic, they'll all equally unprovable!
|
|
| Put the Feynmann Lecturs on Physics in the drawer and be done with it.
|

I personally would prefer Sagan's "The Demon-Haunted World" or anything by
James Randi. Or even Hawking's book "An Illustrated History of Time."

After all, us religious fanatics like to carry our scriptures around in our
PDA.

The best one I've ever heard about was the "Sacred Church Of Larry's Bar And
Grill" down in the Los Angeles area.

Larry's Bar and Grill had topless waitresses. Some of them began to have less
clothes than that. The California ABC moved to shut down the place.

They closed for two weeks. They reopened as the "Sacred Church..." with all the
appropriate paperwork and such. Now the "vestal virgins" can wear anything or
nothing, as they see fit. The holy sacrament of beer is free. However, you had
damned well better "tithe" for your beer or the "holy monks" will take you
outside and cleanse you of your bad habits.

And, the whole damn thing is tax deductible.

Jim



EDR
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

-
-Back in the 80's when people were forming churches for the tax
-deductions, a couple pilot friends discussed forming the Church of
-Whats Happening Now. Their airplanes were to be donated to the church
-so that all their fuel and flying could be deducted as church business.

Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

Sven wrote:

Heaven is Oshkosh!

No, no, no. . . Heaven is Oshkosh where all the vendors have an
unlimited supply of free samples


--
Chris Woodhouse
Oklahoma City, OK

"They that can give up essential liberty
to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania

("C J Campbell" wrote)

No, let's not. After all, I personally am very religious. Worse, in
the eyes
of many here, I am a Mormon. My concept of God does not require
infinite
regression. However, I have no interest in any serious discussion of
religious belief in this forum. (Some would argue that I have no
interest in
serious discussion of any topic.) :-)


Hey Homie .....or should I say Mormie g

When you say *For the Homeland* ...you mean Minnesota too - not just the
Great Salt Lake basin, right?

BTW. Why don't we ever get the Marie Osmond kind of Mormons coming to
the door? You know - cute!!

--
Montblack
Catholic, with a shotgun under my matress. Waiting for marching orders
from The Pope.

"Ian" wrote in message . ..
Anyone ever run into this before? What did you do?

All you had to do was get up and leave instead of agonizing over the
politeness of how to exit. Nobody forced you to sit there and listen to it.

It's clear you and your family have no moral guidance. I can see how being
raised a Catholic has got you out of tune with God, that's pretty common.
Sure, faith is a personal thing, but we're also commanded to spread the good
news. Tell others. That's what they were doing. You make it sound like
you were trapped because it makes them sound evil and you appear a victim
and we'll feel sorry for you. It's real funny to laugh at the apparent
hypocrites who want to tell you something important while sitting in a
casino. Well they are as imperfect as the rest of us. Who knows - maybe
they go to the casino just to evangelize because they know there are people
there like you who need to hear it. It's the message that's important, not
the person delivering it. Your rejection of the message does not diminish
its truth. Feel free to continue denying God, it is obviously your choice.
It is your unalienable right in this great country to have whatever religion
you want, including none at all. When you're standing at the final
judgement you're going to feel pretty silly remembering how you should have
listened, believed, acted, and provided some leadership to your family in
this most important area of their lives. Are you going to teach your
children about Jesus or let them wander in apathy ? So far, you are lost.
If you think your own inner self, your conscience, your innate sense of
right and wrong should be your guide, if you think its enough just to be a
good person, then you've got it all backwards.

Your prolific newsgroup posting over the last several years now has provided
some interesting insight into your personality. We know what you look like,
where you live, what you like to do, where you like to go, how you earn a
living. Isn't it time you quit worshipping the Pathfinder parked out back
and sought out some real meaning to why you're here ? Some real guidance in
your life ? Pick up the Bible and take another look. That's the real POH.
It's especially hard for smart, successful people like yourself to believe
that they need Jesus because it makes them accept the fact that they are
inadequate and incomplete without Him. Well get used to that concept. From
the janitor to the CEO and from the gambler to the hotel owner, that is
exactly what we all need. The only difference is in how long it takes each
of us to figure it out and make the single most important decision your
entire life. To accept Jesus or reject him. It's just between you and Him,
nobody else. What is it going to be ?

OK, I'll admit it...I'm confused. Who's trolling, Jay or Ian? For
the love of the Golden Calf, this is an _aviation_ newsgroup!

"John Gaquin" wrote in message ...
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message

???

What chip am I carrying?

Re-read your own post. The whole tone is one of over-reaction. Granted,
these guys were obnoxiously intrusive, no excuse, but you do sort of carry
on about them. From the time they said Grace before lunch, you took
thirteen paragraphs to relate something that could have been told in three
or four. I think you really *wanted* to rant. Clearly, evangelizing
organized religion is a hot-button with you.

And how have they ruined more than my lunch?


By your own account, you and Mary rehashed the event all the way home. I'm
betting the subject wasn't dropped on arrival back at Iowa City, either.
And the following day you were still incensed enough to post a rather
lengthy message to the NG. So, these guys had you locked and stressed for a
day and a half, anyway.

Jay, I'm no missionary, but I'm not an atheist or agnostic, either. There
are whackos everywhere, in all walks of life. There are guys I know in
airline cockpits I wouldn't want moving into my neighborhood! You just
can't let them get you wired like this!

That's all I meant.

JG

Who hit a "hot button" with whom?

I'm reminded of Shakespeare at this time, and one of the many
great lines, this one from the comedy As You Like It (II, vii, 139-143)

"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players."

And if the Reviews don't get better, She's going to close the show!