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Mechanics of Elevator Trim. In Detail.
On Jun 9, 10:58*am, "Robert M. Gary" wrote:
On Jun 8, 10:20*am, Le Chaud Lapin wrote: On Jun 8, 11:07*am, "Robert M. Gary" wrote: For sake of those of us who only own MSFS, let's say a C172. What does MSFS have to do with anything. This is a pilot news group, not sim. There are sim groups out there that would be more appropriate for your question. MSFS was the means by which I discovered the mechanism. If I had learned in actual aircraft, the question still would have been relevant. -Le Chaud Lapin- |
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Mechanics of Elevator Trim. In Detail.
On Jun 9, 3:26*am, Andy Hawkins wrote:
Hi. In article , * * * * * *Le Chaud wrote: Again, this isn't rocket science, but I suspect that other students, like I, had misconception of how it might work, even though it is written in the book how it should work. A student who's actually sat in an aircraft and carried out the pre-flight should have little doubt as to what moving the trim wheel actually does. In the Warrior I fly, we're taught to put in full back elevator, then wind the trim through the limits of its travel, watching the trim tab to ensure it moves as it should. That's interesting. How do you see the trim tab fromm the cockpit? I've been in Tomahawk and DA-20. I did preflight on DA-20, but didn't test trim. Similarly, in the 'Aircraft General and Principles of Flight' exam we have to sit in the UK, the operation of trim is expected to be understood. -Le Chaud Lapin- |
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message ... Le Chaud Lapin wrote in news:a685e391-2f45-4a75- : On Jun 9, 12:34 am, Tina wrote: Le Chaud Lapin wrote wrote: Spent 30 minutes at pool yesterday discussing with professional metalworkers best way to weld a complex joint for important element of prototype of what would be considered a wing. Such things take time, and still, I do not know if it will work. -Le Chaud Lapin- to which I would point out that in 2008 most engineers when considering structures operating at general aviation speeds and stresses would be thinking of composites and molding complex shapes, not in terms of bending metal and welded joining. This presumes that you know what the welds are for, which would be difficult, as the welders themselves do not even know at this point. And neither do you. Bertie And obviously, neither do you. Little slow over on RAP this morning, Mr. Needsalife? |
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Mechanics of Elevator Trim. In Detail.
On Jun 9, 10:25 am, Le Chaud Lapin wrote:
On Jun 9, 12:34 am, Tina wrote: Le Chaud Lapin wrote wrote: Spent 30 minutes at pool yesterday discussing with professional metalworkers best way to weld a complex joint for important element of prototype of what would be considered a wing. Such things take time, and still, I do not know if it will work. -Le Chaud Lapin- to which I would point out that in 2008 most engineers when considering structures operating at general aviation speeds and stresses would be thinking of composites and molding complex shapes, not in terms of bending metal and welded joining. This presumes that you know what the welds are for, which would be difficult, as the welders themselves do not even know at this point. -Le Chaud Lapin- I would point out 1 there are few structural elements of G A airplanes that cannot be done very effectively in composites, aned complex shapes lend themselves to molds, not welds 2 if you were seeking advice without disclosing to those whose advice you were seeking the parameters of concern, you have shown yourself to be not very competent as an engineer. I'm glad you don't work for my husband, but you'd have to be an excellent fraud to survive in our real world for very long. If you demonstrate those shortcomings so clearly here I would worry about your career choice. I know it's your choice and decision, but I hope you're in a position where mistakes will likely not cause great harm. Good luck in any event. |
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Mechanics of Elevator Trim. In Detail.
On Jun 9, 9:34*am, Le Chaud Lapin wrote:
MSFS was the means by which I discovered the mechanism. If I had learned in actual aircraft, the question still would have been relevant. I disagree. I've never had a student have trouble understanding trim. I think this is just something that is confusing for the sim guys. As such it is more approporiate for a sim group, not a pilot's group. -Robert, CFII |
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Mechanics of Elevator Trim. In Detail.
On Jun 8, 8:54*pm, Le Chaud Lapin wrote:
Spent 30 minutes at pool yesterday discussing with professional metalworkers best way to weld a complex joint for important element of prototype of what would be considered a wing. When you go to look for commerical rated pilots to do the test flight please cross my name off the list. -Robert, CFII |
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Mechanics of Elevator Trim. In Detail.
Le Chaud Lapin wrote:
MSFS was the means by which I discovered the mechanism. If I had learned in actual aircraft, the question still would have been relevant. -Le Chaud Lapin- You never learned of trim until MSFS and you are going to design an airplane. Fabulous! |
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Mechanics of Elevator Trim. In Detail.
On Jun 9, 1:06*pm, "Robert M. Gary" wrote:
On Jun 9, 9:34*am, Le Chaud Lapin wrote: MSFS was the means by which I discovered the mechanism. If I had learned in actual aircraft, the question still would have been relevant. I disagree. I've never had a student have trouble understanding trim. I think this is just something that is confusing for the sim guys. As such it is more approporiate for a sim group, not a pilot's group. I never had trouble undestanding it. My ground school instructor said what was written in the Jeppesen book and moved on. I think if the book said more about how it worked, there would be no misunderstanding. -Le Chaud Lapin- |
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