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FAA announces end of the 8710 form!!
The FAA is slowly removing the requirement to fill out 8710's for
ratings. There is a new web site. http://aera.faa.gov The student fills out their checkride app, you approve it as the CFI, the DE approve it after the checkride and the web site prints a temporary certificate. All the DE's in the Sacramento FSDO are now required to have laptops to work with this. The FSDO is excited about this because Oklahama gets the app in seconds and there is no lost paperwork. -Robert |
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FAA announces end of the 8710 form!!
This site has been up for at least a year. I registered, then forgot
my loginid, and found that I had to call them during the working hours to get it. I never do this sort of thing during daylight hours. ;-) So I've never used it. Instructors who do use it say the site is confusing. I find 8710 forms quite easy to use with an electronic document to fill in,such as word or acrobat. On 17 May 2006 20:06:47 -0700, "Robert M. Gary" wrote: The FAA is slowly removing the requirement to fill out 8710's for ratings. There is a new web site. http://aera.faa.gov The student fills out their checkride app, you approve it as the CFI, the DE approve it after the checkride and the web site prints a temporary certificate. All the DE's in the Sacramento FSDO are now required to have laptops to work with this. The FSDO is excited about this because Oklahama gets the app in seconds and there is no lost paperwork. -Robert |
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FAA announces end of the 8710 form!!
The 8710 method requires a log book endorsements for the checkride,
etc. The FSDO says if you use the on-line system you do not need to make any log book endorsements whatsoever for the checkride. The examiner just approves the checkride on the on-line system and its done. -Robert |
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FAA announces end of the 8710 form!!
so what is the mandatory implementation date country wide.
BT "Robert M. Gary" wrote in message ps.com... The FAA is slowly removing the requirement to fill out 8710's for ratings. There is a new web site. http://aera.faa.gov The student fills out their checkride app, you approve it as the CFI, the DE approve it after the checkride and the web site prints a temporary certificate. All the DE's in the Sacramento FSDO are now required to have laptops to work with this. The FSDO is excited about this because Oklahama gets the app in seconds and there is no lost paperwork. -Robert |
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FAA announces end of the 8710 form!!
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message...
The FSDO is excited about this because Oklahama gets the app in seconds and there is no lost paperwork. -Robert Wanna bet? Google IACRA lost forms and you'll have plenty of examples. There's even one on rec.aviation.student right now. David |
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FAA announces end of the 8710 form!!
They lost mine. Submitted by IACRA on 1/28 - I kept calling and they
had no explanatin as to why it hadn't been processed. A couple of weeks ago, I called, someone dug and found out that it had "lost" and never been put through processing. She apologized, but said she had no idea why that happened. It was finally approved Friday of last week. Ten more days until my temporary expires, but they said they would fax me a copy of the card if it didn't arrive in time. Wiz FLAV8R wrote: "Robert M. Gary" wrote in message... The FSDO is excited about this because Oklahama gets the app in seconds and there is no lost paperwork. -Robert Wanna bet? Google IACRA lost forms and you'll have plenty of examples. There's even one on rec.aviation.student right now. David |
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FAA announces end of the 8710 form!!
That's probably why it was in Beta. They claim its now ready. I'm just
glad my customers don't make their buy decisions on beta software we've sent them. -robert |
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FAA announces end of the 8710 form!!
The FSDO says if you use the on-line system you do not need to
make any log book endorsements whatsoever for the checkride. I find this hard to believe. The logbook endorsements are required by law. |
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FAA announces end of the 8710 form!!
On Thu, 18 May 2006 03:40:15 -0400, "FLAV8R"
wrote: "Robert M. Gary" wrote in message... The FSDO is excited about this because Oklahama gets the app in seconds and there is no lost paperwork. -Robert Wanna bet? Google IACRA lost forms and you'll have plenty of examples. There's even one on rec.aviation.student right now. As almost any computing professional will attest. There is no such thing as a successful paperless office. Go strictly to computers and you are almost guaranteed to lose some information sooner or later. Of course if you keep rolling backups and backup of the back ups in a different location as is required in industry it's a little different. Even then paper is used for short term. The problem with a computer is when you lose the information that isn't backed up it is gone, often with no way of conveniently retrieving it. I know of one large system that was backed up every day at midnight with a rolling back up. It failed at 2:00 PM. The backs ups restored everything up till midnight, but all of the data from many labs through the corporation had go be re-entered from midnight until the time of the failure. That was many hundreds of hours with a recharge rate of close to $100 per hour, or some where between $150,000 and $250,000 dollars. Yesterday we received a call from our vet. Seems as their computer system crashed. They lost all of their billing records for the last two weeks. They have to rebuild all of that one record at a time. Even large corporations lose computer information. OTOH there are times they probably wish they could. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com David |
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