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2 pilot/small airplane CRM
Can anyone point me to web or print resources with discussion of how to
best utilize two pilots in small airplanes? Who does what, etc. I have found lots of airline-level material but really nothing that relates to flying light singles. Or maybe someone who regularly flies with a pilot spouse? How do you split the workload? |
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"Mitty" wrote in message ... Can anyone point me to web or print resources with discussion of how to best utilize two pilots in small airplanes? Who does what, etc. I have found lots of airline-level material but really nothing that relates to flying light singles. Or maybe someone who regularly flies with a pilot spouse? How do you split the workload? I fly with a nonpilot spouse who shares my workload. She has a copy of the checklists, and some items are her responsibility. In preflight, she checks switches etc. on her side (all identified on the checklist), verifies vacuum at runup, watches me to make sure I don't miss things, issues certain reminders at various planned times. After takeoff, she calls altitudes at which I have actions to take (typically 400AGL and 1000 AGL), watches my heading and altitude for compliance with clearance, calls attention to deviations, announces approaching clearance altitude. She tunes the radios to in-flight assigned frequencies, reminds me to make the call if I got busy and forgot. She monitors the various checklists to make sure I don't miss things (which I never do, of course g). She times the fuel tanks and tells me when to switch. She gets out approach plates when I call for them. etc. Works well for us. The only problem is that I feel lost when flying alone. Stan |
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Mitty wrote:
Can anyone point me to web or print resources with discussion of how to best utilize two pilots in small airplanes? Who does what, etc. I have found lots of airline-level material but really nothing that relates to flying light singles. Or maybe someone who regularly flies with a pilot spouse? How do you split the workload? Since I fly a fair bit of single pilot IFR, I want to retain proficiency at that and not get dependent on another body in the cockpit. I use another pilot or passenger to simply do things like hand me charts and confirm altitudes and watch for traffic. I continue to perform ALL flying, navigating and communication chores so that I stay proficient for single-pilot flight. Matt |
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Is your wife available to train other wifes?
"Stan Prevost" wrote in message ... "Mitty" wrote in message ... Can anyone point me to web or print resources with discussion of how to best utilize two pilots in small airplanes? Who does what, etc. I have found lots of airline-level material but really nothing that relates to flying light singles. Or maybe someone who regularly flies with a pilot spouse? How do you split the workload? I fly with a nonpilot spouse who shares my workload. She has a copy of the checklists, and some items are her responsibility. In preflight, she checks switches etc. on her side (all identified on the checklist), verifies vacuum at runup, watches me to make sure I don't miss things, issues certain reminders at various planned times. After takeoff, she calls altitudes at which I have actions to take (typically 400AGL and 1000 AGL), watches my heading and altitude for compliance with clearance, calls attention to deviations, announces approaching clearance altitude. She tunes the radios to in-flight assigned frequencies, reminds me to make the call if I got busy and forgot. She monitors the various checklists to make sure I don't miss things (which I never do, of course g). She times the fuel tanks and tells me when to switch. She gets out approach plates when I call for them. etc. Works well for us. The only problem is that I feel lost when flying alone. Stan |
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Stan Prevost wrote:
"Mitty" wrote in message ... Can anyone point me to web or print resources with discussion of how to best utilize two pilots in small airplanes? Who does what, etc. I have found lots of airline-level material but really nothing that relates to flying light singles. Or maybe someone who regularly flies with a pilot spouse? How do you split the workload? I fly with a nonpilot spouse who shares my workload. She has a copy of the checklists, and some items are her responsibility. In preflight, she checks switches etc. on her side (all identified on the checklist), verifies vacuum at runup, watches me to make sure I don't miss things, issues certain reminders at various planned times. After takeoff, she calls altitudes at which I have actions to take (typically 400AGL and 1000 AGL), watches my What do you do at 400 AGL? I'm curious as I don't do anything until 1000 (fuel pump off, power set to climb, etc.). Matt |
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Matt Whiting wrote: What do you do at 400 AGL? I'm curious as I don't do anything until 1000 (fuel pump off, power set to climb, etc.). You should be turning when you reach 400 feet. |
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"Matt Whiting" wrote in message ... What do you do at 400 AGL? I'm curious as I don't do anything until 1000 (fuel pump off, power set to climb, etc.). I make any required initial turn to follow an IFR departure procedure or follow an ATC departure clearance. I also transition to climb power at that altitude. Waiting until 1000 AGL for climb power is also a good practice; some say to not fool with the engine until you can turn back to the field. I just like to slow the prop as soon as I can for noise reduction. Stan |
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If the copilot is not familiar with the aircraft (radios, etc) then
it's difficult to have them do the communications, setting freqs, etc. I had that happen with an instructor. I own a cherokee and have upgraded (not hard, since few of the avionics worked anyway) the radios, added an intercom and PS 6000, etc. Most instructors around here are familiar with the King environment and not the PS/Garmin/UPSAT configurations. Hence the inability to change freqs on a timely basis when flying with me. CRM only works if both parties are familiar with procedures and equipment and agree to use the procedures. |
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Mitty wrote:
Can anyone point me to web or print resources with discussion of how to best utilize two pilots in small airplanes? Who does what, etc. I have found lots of airline-level material but really nothing that relates to flying light singles. Or maybe someone who regularly flies with a pilot spouse? How do you split the workload? Mitty, I routinely fly IFR with a crew partner in our 172. I've long considered writing up the procedures we've honed over the last several years, but I never seem to find the time. A year or so ago, however, I wrote up a travelogue of a flight that demonstrated some of what we do. Though we've changed a few procedural details since this was written, it may still be of help if you're simply looking for ideas on how to write up your own procedures. Go to my site and click through: Aviation-Articles-Travelogues-Exercise in Crew Coordination Safe flying, -Doug -- -------------------- Doug Vetter, CFIMEIA http://www.dvcfi.com -------------------- |
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Can anyone point me to web or print resources with discussion of how to
best utilize two pilots in small airplanes? Who does what, etc. I have found lots of airline-level material but really nothing that relates to flying light singles. Or maybe someone who regularly flies with a pilot spouse? How do you split the workload? Nobody seems to have mentioned being certain who is flying the plane. Have an agreed on protocol for exchanging control. P1: You take the controls. P2: I have the controls. P1: You have the controls. I like Stan Prevost's list of things that can be delegated to a nonpilot frequent passenger. That's a clip-and-save. Thanks, Stan. Dave |
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