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Old July 24th 03, 10:21 PM
David Megginson
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I just wanted to mention that I passed my IFR flight test this
morning. We did it in hard IFR, with a 400-foot ceiling -- it was a
lot of fun.

Thank you to everyone in this group for your contributions, which
helped me develop more background knowledge of IFR flight than I could
otherwise have hoped to have.


All the best,


David

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Old July 24th 03, 10:46 PM
David Megginson
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John Theune writes:

Where was it done and who was your DE? I had my checkride postponed
twice because on poor weather. My DE said that the IFR checkride
had to be performed in VFR conditions and led me to believe that it
was mandated that way. I believed him as he pointed out trying to
do unusal attitude recovery in IMC was not condusive to prolonged
life.


I did it in Canada. Unusual attitude recovery on instruments is not
part of our IFR flight test, but I think that I remember doing it
during the hood work in the PPL flight test.

The other difference up here is that you have to retake the IFR flight
test every two years to stay current (in addition to six hours IFR and
six approaches to minimums in the last six months -- the 666 rule).


All the best,


David

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Old July 24th 03, 11:23 PM
Sriram Narayan
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 21:34:00 GMT, John Theune
wrote:

David Megginson wrote in
:

I just wanted to mention that I passed my IFR flight test this
morning. We did it in hard IFR, with a 400-foot ceiling -- it was a
lot of fun.

Thank you to everyone in this group for your contributions, which
helped me develop more background knowledge of IFR flight than I could
otherwise have hoped to have.


All the best,


David


Where was it done and who was your DE? I had my checkride postponed twice
because on poor weather. My DE said that the IFR checkride had to be
performed in VFR conditions and led me to believe that it was mandated that
way. I believed him as he pointed out trying to do unusal attitude
recovery in IMC was not condusive to prolonged life.


Not necessarily. Part of my test was done in VFR, above the clouds for
the unusual attidudes etc. I had a couple of approaches in IMC (didn't
see the airport on the VOR approach) so had to do a missed. This was
in Northern California (SF Bay area).

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Old July 24th 03, 11:24 PM
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Like you said, I think they need VFR weather for at least part of the test
for certain tasks. But my approaches were done in actual.

"John Theune" wrote in message
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David Megginson wrote in
:

I just wanted to mention that I passed my IFR flight test this
morning. We did it in hard IFR, with a 400-foot ceiling -- it was a
lot of fun.

Thank you to everyone in this group for your contributions, which
helped me develop more background knowledge of IFR flight than I could
otherwise have hoped to have.


All the best,


David


Where was it done and who was your DE? I had my checkride postponed twice
because on poor weather. My DE said that the IFR checkride had to be
performed in VFR conditions and led me to believe that it was mandated

that
way. I believed him as he pointed out trying to do unusal attitude
recovery in IMC was not condusive to prolonged life.



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Old July 24th 03, 11:45 PM
David Brooks
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"John Theune" wrote in message
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Where was it done and who was your DE? I had my checkride postponed twice
because on poor weather. My DE said that the IFR checkride had to be
performed in VFR conditions and led me to believe that it was mandated

that
way. I believed him as he pointed out trying to do unusal attitude
recovery in IMC was not condusive to prolonged life.


Not necessarily. My IR ride was in IMC (900ft ceilings, so not as
challenging). But the airport stands 600ft above the Sound, and after the
last approach we transitioned to SVFR, went over the water and did the
maneuvers there. I was totally fried, of course, and my steep turns sucked,
but we managed to stay both dry and clear.

It has to be the judgement of the applicant, subject to an overrule (and
likely disapproval) by the DE. And a discontinuance is always an option if
that SVFR thing hadn't worked out.

-- David Brooks


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Old July 25th 03, 02:58 AM
David Megginson
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"Dan Luke" writes:

Congratulations and welcome to SMOGG, the Sincerely Motivated
Organization of Gauge Gazers.


Thanks -- that's the plan. I wanted to get my rating so that I can
start learning IFR in earnest, outside the training sandbox.


All the best,


David

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Old July 25th 03, 03:00 AM
David Megginson
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"Dan Luke" writes:

Congratulations and welcome to SMOGG, the Sincerely Motivated
Organization of Gauge Gazers.


Thanks -- that's the plan. I wanted to get my rating so that I can
start learning IFR in earnest, outside the training sandbox.


All the best,


David

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Old July 25th 03, 06:07 AM
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David Megginson wrote:
I just wanted to mention that I passed my IFR flight test this
morning. We did it in hard IFR, with a 400-foot ceiling -- it was a
lot of fun.


David,

Congratulations!

Just out of curiousity, though, how did your DE handle
partial panel, steep turns, and unusual attitudes?

Did he actually set you up in unusual attitudes IMC,
or have you fly partial panel in IMC, with 400 ft
ceilings?

Cheers,
Sydney

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Old July 25th 03, 12:05 PM
David Megginson
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Sydney Hoeltzli writes:

Just out of curiousity, though, how did your DE handle
partial panel, steep turns, and unusual attitudes?


Those are not part of the Canadian IFR flight test, though we do them
all in training, and get tested on unusual attitude recovery under the
hood for the PPL (if I recall correctly). The IFR flight test itself
is just normal ops.

It would be hard to say which approach is best. Our DFTE *is* allowed
to fail instruments or avionics during the test -- I lost my DME for
the NDB approach -- but it's rare to get anything too hard the first
time through. On the other hand, we have to retake the IFR flight
test every two years, and the DFTE's tend to get tougher on the
recurrency tests (i.e. covering the AI and HI, or pulling the circuit
breaker for the TC and waiting to see how long it takes you to
notice).


All the best,


David

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Old July 25th 03, 03:38 PM
Peter R.
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David Megginson ) wrote:

I just wanted to mention that I passed my IFR flight test this
morning. We did it in hard IFR, with a 400-foot ceiling -- it was a
lot of fun.


Well done and congratulations to you!

Now you can sit here on the ground, looking up at the broken layer of
cumulous clouds with numerous, embedded t-storms awaiting inside and say,
"sometimes legal is not safe."

--
Peter
Too many scattered t-storms in our neck of the woods these days...









 




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