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Old March 31st 05, 10:07 PM
wingsnaprop
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how many homebuilts do you think have made the flight from California
to Hawaii ? 2003 nm

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...l+plane+hawaii

Here's some food for thought -

The Deltahawk Diesel @ 180 hp (according to them which may or may not
be propaganda) gets 5.5 Gallon/hr. @ 65% power and cruises
easily at altitudes well above the OX requiring 17000 + Feet.

A GlassGoose can be made ( relatively easily I'm told ) with an extra
35+ Gallon removeable 'ferry' Tank in the storage area for a total fuel
capacity of 105+ gallons Jet-A

With a 180 hp DeltaHawk Diesel @ 5.5 GPH @ 65% Power, thats 16.5 hrs @
the (Consevative) GG's 125 MPH = 2065 NM With a 2.5+ hr = 310+ NM
reserve.. on 105 gallons Jet-A At 6.7 Lbs / Gallon = 705 lbs of fuel.


Thats California ( HAF) to Hawaii ( ITO) ( 2003 NM) with a 3.0 hour
/370 nm mile reserve, In a Plane that, if ya had to ditch, would
~Probably~ not sink ! ( though you'd never want to put it down in blue
water swells)

But i don't know, Would a GlassGoose be any fun in Hawaii? :

P.S.- yep you guessed it , UPS the Right Seat, a few tools, and all
your luggage to your hotel
Wingsnaprop

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Old March 31st 05, 10:38 PM
MJC
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By the time the Deltahawk is "actually" available for consumer
installations, I'm pretty sure that Warp Bionic Drive will be the standard
aviation engine (around the 23rd Century if things keep going like they are
at Deltahawk).
I gave up on Deltahawk over a year ago and am going with an engine that
runs on avgas (Lycoming) rather than an engine that appears to be running
on, well, nothing.
I'd even bet that the Honda aviation engine will be flying before the
Deltahawk.

MJC

"wingsnaprop" wrote in message
oups.com...
how many homebuilts do you think have made the flight from California
to Hawaii ? 2003 nm


http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...l+plane+hawaii

Here's some food for thought -

The Deltahawk Diesel @ 180 hp (according to them which may or may not
be propaganda) gets 5.5 Gallon/hr. @ 65% power and cruises
easily at altitudes well above the OX requiring 17000 + Feet.

A GlassGoose can be made ( relatively easily I'm told ) with an extra
35+ Gallon removeable 'ferry' Tank in the storage area for a total fuel
capacity of 105+ gallons Jet-A

With a 180 hp DeltaHawk Diesel @ 5.5 GPH @ 65% Power, thats 16.5 hrs @
the (Consevative) GG's 125 MPH = 2065 NM With a 2.5+ hr = 310+ NM
reserve.. on 105 gallons Jet-A At 6.7 Lbs / Gallon = 705 lbs of fuel.


Thats California ( HAF) to Hawaii ( ITO) ( 2003 NM) with a 3.0 hour
/370 nm mile reserve, In a Plane that, if ya had to ditch, would
~Probably~ not sink ! ( though you'd never want to put it down in blue
water swells)

But i don't know, Would a GlassGoose be any fun in Hawaii? :

P.S.- yep you guessed it , UPS the Right Seat, a few tools, and all
your luggage to your hotel
Wingsnaprop



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Old April 1st 05, 12:38 AM
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"wingsnaprop" wrote in message
oups.com...
how many homebuilts do you think have made the flight from California
to Hawaii ? 2003 nm

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...l+plane+hawaii

Here's some food for thought -

The Deltahawk Diesel @ 180 hp (according to them which may or may not
be propaganda) gets 5.5 Gallon/hr. @ 65% power and cruises
easily at altitudes well above the OX requiring 17000 + Feet.

A GlassGoose can be made ( relatively easily I'm told ) with an extra
35+ Gallon removeable 'ferry' Tank in the storage area for a total fuel
capacity of 105+ gallons Jet-A

With a 180 hp DeltaHawk Diesel @ 5.5 GPH @ 65% Power, thats 16.5 hrs @
the (Consevative) GG's 125 MPH = 2065 NM With a 2.5+ hr = 310+ NM
reserve.. on 105 gallons Jet-A At 6.7 Lbs / Gallon = 705 lbs of fuel.


Thats California ( HAF) to Hawaii ( ITO) ( 2003 NM) with a 3.0 hour
/370 nm mile reserve, In a Plane that, if ya had to ditch, would
~Probably~ not sink ! ( though you'd never want to put it down in blue
water swells)

But i don't know, Would a GlassGoose be any fun in Hawaii? :

P.S.- yep you guessed it , UPS the Right Seat, a few tools, and all
your luggage to your hotel
Wingsnaprop



Why not just build an Aerocomp 6 or bigger and just put extra 55 gallon
drums in the back. When you get there, get rid of the drums and buy a futon
mattress.




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Old April 1st 05, 01:51 AM
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On 31 Mar 2005 13:07:46 -0800, "wingsnaprop"
wrote:

how many homebuilts do you think have made the flight from California
to Hawaii ? 2003 nm


Several years ago a Varieze or Longeze flew from Hawaii to San
Francisco and then on to Oshkosh
Ed Sullivan

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Old April 1st 05, 02:20 AM
John Ammeter
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On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 16:51:25 -0800, Ed Sullivan
wrote:

On 31 Mar 2005 13:07:46 -0800, "wingsnaprop"
wrote:

how many homebuilts do you think have made the flight from California
to Hawaii ? 2003 nm


Several years ago a Varieze or Longeze flew from Hawaii to San
Francisco and then on to Oshkosh
Ed Sullivan


Wasn't there a Varieze that flew from Anchorage to Florida??

john
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Old April 1st 05, 02:34 AM
Jerry Springer
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John Ammeter wrote:
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 16:51:25 -0800, Ed Sullivan
wrote:


On 31 Mar 2005 13:07:46 -0800, "wingsnaprop"
wrote:


how many homebuilts do you think have made the flight from California
to Hawaii ? 2003 nm


Several years ago a Varieze or Longeze flew from Hawaii to San
Francisco and then on to Oshkosh
Ed Sullivan



Wasn't there a Varieze that flew from Anchorage to Florida??

john


And then there is Jon Johnason that flew his RV-4 from Australia to
Oshkosh and back several time. Remember his last great misadventure was
getting stuck in Antarctica with no fuel.

Jerry
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Old April 1st 05, 02:57 AM
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On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 23:38:49 GMT, "Dude" wrote:

Why not just build an Aerocomp 6 or bigger and just put extra 55 gallon
drums in the back. When you get there, get rid of the drums and buy a futon
mattress.


Or just buy gas on the way...

http://www.bowersflybaby.com/stories/longrange.jpg

Ron Wanttaja
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Old April 1st 05, 03:04 AM
UltraJohn
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Ron Wanttaja wrote:

On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 23:38:49 GMT, "Dude" wrote:

Why not just build an Aerocomp 6 or bigger and just put extra 55 gallon
drums in the back. When you get there, get rid of the drums and buy a
futon mattress.


Or just buy gas on the way...

http://www.bowersflybaby.com/stories/longrange.jpg

Ron Wanttaja

Good one Ron!

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Old April 1st 05, 03:41 AM
kumaros
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wingsnaprop wrote:
how many homebuilts do you think have made the flight from California
to Hawaii ? 2003 nm

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...l+plane+hawaii

Here's some food for thought -

The Deltahawk Diesel @ 180 hp (according to them which may or may not
be propaganda) gets 5.5 Gallon/hr. @ 65% power and cruises
easily at altitudes well above the OX requiring 17000 + Feet.

A GlassGoose can be made ( relatively easily I'm told ) with an extra
35+ Gallon removeable 'ferry' Tank in the storage area for a total fuel
capacity of 105+ gallons Jet-A

With a 180 hp DeltaHawk Diesel @ 5.5 GPH @ 65% Power, thats 16.5 hrs @
the (Consevative) GG's 125 MPH = 2065 NM With a 2.5+ hr = 310+ NM
reserve.. on 105 gallons Jet-A At 6.7 Lbs / Gallon = 705 lbs of fuel.


Thats California ( HAF) to Hawaii ( ITO) ( 2003 NM) with a 3.0 hour
/370 nm mile reserve, In a Plane that, if ya had to ditch, would
~Probably~ not sink ! ( though you'd never want to put it down in blue
water swells)

But i don't know, Would a GlassGoose be any fun in Hawaii? :

P.S.- yep you guessed it , UPS the Right Seat, a few tools, and all
your luggage to your hotel
Wingsnaprop


You don't have to wait for the
DeltaHawk, though it should be a great
engine when it arrives. The Diamond
TwinStar, equiped with two Thielert
Centurions, 130 HP turbo-diesels,
derivatives of the Mercedes Benz A-Class
auto engine, on its way back to Europe
from its Oshkosh appearance crossed the
Atlantic from Newfoundland to
Oporto/Portugal, a distance of 3535 km
or 1909 nm burning just 72 gallons of
Jet-A. That's the GlassGoose's fuel
capacity, isn't it? A 25 gallon fuel
bladder would provide the necessary
reserves.
The Toyota 2.2 liter D-4D Clean Power in
the new Toyota Avensis and Lexus IS with
180 HP at 3600 RPM would be a very close
alternative to the DeltaHawk, at one
tenth of its price.
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Old April 1st 05, 04:28 AM
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Ron Wanttaja wrote:

On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 23:38:49 GMT, "Dude" wrote:


Why not just build an Aerocomp 6 or bigger and just put extra 55 gallon
drums in the back. When you get there, get rid of the drums and buy a futon
mattress.



Or just buy gas on the way...

http://www.bowersflybaby.com/stories/longrange.jpg

Ron Wanttaja


Ron, you need serious help

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
 




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