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Repercussions for people outside New Orleans
Back when Andrew came through, the damage created tremendous and lasting
shortages of building materials. Plywood became unobtainable in the northeast for a short period of time and scarce for nearly a year after that. Prices went up and stayed there. A few years later, manufacturers reduced the thicknesses and quality of the material. Kiln-dried lumber disappeared and is still hard to find in this area. We are just now seeing the return of some decent quality plywood -- it's being billed as "classic" material. I believe we can expect the same sort of thing when the restoration effort gets under way after Katrina. I think that, if any of you guys have projects in mind that require plywood (perhaps work on your hangar?), it might be a good idea to buy it now. George Patterson Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks. |
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"George Patterson" wrote: if any of you guys have projects in mind that require plywood (perhaps work on your hangar?), it might be a good idea to buy it now. Just try buying any roofing materials in the next 12 months. |
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I believe we can expect the same sort of thing when the restoration effort
gets under way after Katrina. I think that, if any of you guys have projects in mind that require plywood (perhaps work on your hangar?), it might be a good idea to buy it now. Better buy gas, too. The gougers and racketeers have already jumped to $3 per gallon in Des Moines, as of this morning. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:GqqRe.79170$084.12017@attbi_s22... I believe we can expect the same sort of thing when the restoration effort gets under way after Katrina. I think that, if any of you guys have projects in mind that require plywood (perhaps work on your hangar?), it might be a good idea to buy it now. Better buy gas, too. The gougers and racketeers have already jumped to $3 per gallon in Des Moines, as of this morning. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" Fox showed a station in Atlanta where the low test was $5.65/gal ... The guest they had on did, however, mention that this is probably an intentional move to deter a rush on the pumps and keep the supply as available as possible... I'm afraid this is just gonna get uglier and uglier...and to boot, my wife and I are heading off shortly for a week-long vacation in Durango, CO and Santa Fe, NM...driving it, no less...timing, sheesh. Jay Beckman PP-ASEL Arizona Cloudbusters Chandler, AZ |
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"JH" == Jay Honeck writes:
JH Better buy gas, too. The gougers and racketeers have already JH jumped to $3 per gallon in Des Moines, as of this morning. Snicker Uh, Jay, that would be free market entrepeneurs. Or have you suddenly gone righteous/socialist on us? |
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JH Better buy gas, too. The gougers and racketeers have already
JH jumped to $3 per gallon in Des Moines, as of this morning. Snicker Uh, Jay, that would be free market entrepeneurs. Or have you suddenly gone righteous/socialist on us? Thousands of gas stations jacking gas prices nationwide, in lock-step with each other, because of a trumped up "disaster" (and in the face of the release of the Strategic Oil Reserve, which will totally off-set any effect of Katrina) is not "entrepreneurship" -- it's criminal. But it's an inevitable and utterly predictable result of our government's ill-thought-out destruction of independently owned gas stations in the 1980s and '90s. All we have left now are the big company stations, controlled by a relatively small number of owners -- so it's easy for them to control pricing. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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There are _far_ more variables involved with the pricing of gasoline to
just say it's price fixing that's going on right now. Anyways, to try and get this newsgroup _back_ on topic, I present to you the following bit of information a friend of mine just pointed me to. Might make us Americans appreciate just a bit more our "free" private pilot certificates. Check out how much they charge for a instrument skill test _after_ a partial completion! http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/175/srg_fc...ges_ppl_05.pdf -- Guy |
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Jay Honeck wrote: But it's an inevitable and utterly predictable result of our government's ill-thought-out destruction of independently owned gas stations in the 1980s and '90s. All we have left now are the big company stations, controlled by a relatively small number of owners -- so it's easy for them to control pricing. That's BS. Here in Montana we had regulated gas prices until about 5 years ago. Every link in the chain was required to sell it for at least 8% more than he bought it for. The reasoning was to protect the little guy. Screw the little guy. If you can't make a profit then go do something else. As soon as we got rid of that stupid law gas prices fell because everyone could set their own price. To say the big guys come in and force the price up is a red herring. Today the most expensive gas is always the mom and pop shop. Here the cheapest gas is at Costco, one of the larger companies. Next cheapest is the medium sized stations with convenience stores, like Super America. They use their cheap gas to get you in the store to buy overpriced dairy products and donuts. Then comes mom and pop, bitching about the damn corporations |
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What 99.5% of people fail to understand is that without getting certain
parts of the infrstructure back online, it won't matter how much crude you release from the national reserves because the refining and delivery system won't be online. Right now you have just about 2.5 million barrels per day refining completely shut down for one if not all three of the following reasons: 1: The plant itself is under water. If there is as little as 6" of water in a lot of these plants, the units can't be run because many of the pumps and their motors are in standing water. 2. They don't have any electricty....no power no operations 3. The natural gas piplines that provide the fuel to run the plants are not operating....same outcome as #2. One thing that has greatly helped is that the EPA had temporarily dropped the rules on reformulated gas. Under the rules the gas that was blended for the northeast coupldn't be piped anywhwere else because of the smog rules. And so on and so on. What this means is that the plants can run just a single blend of regular unleaded instead of the 60+ custom blends that the EPA mandated. This allows the plants to run longer production runs and not have to limit the runs on how much of one blend or another they need. Now they can run until all the storage capacity is filled with the single blend and not get gonged by the EPA. In the short term it's going to play some havok with the smog levels in some locations, but that's better than having the entire country screwed up by idiodic rules. The worst thing people can do now is panic over the price and start trying to hoard and store fuel. That causes an artificial shortage. One station operator in Atlanta pointed out one customer to a news crew. Said that he was in the station with a third vehicle and six more jerry cans in less than an hour....just what we need..... Once things shake out a little and the pipeline people and the plant operations people get their basic power, water, fuel and feedstocks back into some kind of operation, there won't as much of a problem. Most of the drilling and production companies are already working to get the rigs and production platforms back into action as fast as possible. BTW most places price their fuel based on what the next tanker drop is expected to cost them and not what the current stock cost, and they base that number on the daily spot market price. Craig C. |
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On 2005-09-01, Jay Honeck wrote:
Thousands of gas stations jacking gas prices nationwide, in lock-step with each other, because of a trumped up "disaster" (and in the face of the release of the Strategic Oil Reserve, which will totally off-set any effect of Katrina) is not "entrepreneurship" -- it's criminal. The Strategic Oil Reserve is crude oil. With 6 major refineries currently shut down due to Katrina, releasing that reserve doesn't really do much if the shortage is now in refining. The price of refined fuel has gone up because of the laws of supply and demand - there is extra demand as people try to hoard, and restricted supply because refineries are offline. It's just the free market you're so enthusiastic about operating in its normal manner. -- Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net "Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee" |
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