Substandard Italian workmanship renders first 787s unsafe

Boeing has discovered that the Italian firm to which it subcontracted
construction of tail assemblies isn't doing the work correctly, putting the 23
aircraft it has already built at risk:

http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/p...-found/97983/1

No surprise here. When you allow Third World companies to built vital parts to
your airplane, you should take for granted that there will be potentially
dangerous defects. That's the consequence of trying to be politically correct.

In rec.aviation.piloting Mxsmanic wrote:
Boeing has discovered that the Italian firm to which it subcontracted
construction of tail assemblies isn't doing the work correctly, putting the 23
aircraft it has already built at risk:

http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/p...-found/97983/1

No surprise here. When you allow Third World companies to built vital parts to
your airplane, you should take for granted that there will be potentially
dangerous defects. That's the consequence of trying to be politically correct.

Italy isn't concidered a third world country by anyone but you.


--
Jim Pennino

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Boeing has discovered that the Italian firm to which it subcontracted
construction of tail assemblies isn't doing the work correctly, putting
the 23
aircraft it has already built at risk:

http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/p...-found/97983/1

No surprise here. When you allow Third World companies to built vital
parts to
your airplane, you should take for granted that there will be potentially
dangerous defects. That's the consequence of trying to be politically
correct.

Lots of people would consider that Italian technology is at least as good as
anything emanating from Chicago.
--
JohnT

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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Boeing has discovered that the Italian firm to which it subcontracted
construction of tail assemblies isn't doing the work correctly, putting
the 23
aircraft it has already built at risk:

http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/p...-found/97983/1

No surprise here. When you allow Third World companies to built vital
parts to
your airplane, you should take for granted that there will be potentially
dangerous defects. That's the consequence of trying to be politically
correct.

Lots of people would consider that Italian technology is at least as good
as anything emanating from Chicago.

And that is in which world?

JohnT writes:

Lots of people would consider that Italian technology is at least as good as
anything emanating from Chicago.

Then Boeing must have picked the wrong Italian partner. And this appears to be
an issue with workmanship, not technology or design. The tails were simply not
put together correctly, implying unqualified, careless, or lazy workers.

If I recall correctly, this isn't the first time I've read about an Italian
company screwing things up.

There are a number of classic stereotypes concerning European cultures, and
unfortunately many of them have a strong basis in fact.

I wonder why Boeing put anything in Italy. It's not like the Italians have any
strong airlines that would be buying dozens of 787s, and if all Boeing cared
about was price, they could find cheaper suppliers in other countries.

Mxsmanic wrote:


If I recall correctly, this isn't the first time I've read about an
Italian company screwing things up.


And you somehow think that sort of thing is unique to Italian
companies?

After ~30 years of working in various aspects of the engineering
profession, with a goodly load of supplier qualification work in
that time, I can tell you with some confidence that the country in
which a given company is located has precisely zero to do with
whether or not they're going to be an acceptable supplier.

Bob M.

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lid says...


And you somehow think that sort of thing is unique to Italian
companies?


I cannot help but notice that this aviation expert, always ready to
correct professionals' factual information, never cites a qualified
source. All his information comes from Newsweek, USA Today etc. It would
seem for all his zeal in contesting others' facts he is not very
enterprising in cementing his own understanding of issues.

I certainly hope this laziness does not extend to his piloting
activities, otherwise _bad things_ could happen!

VOR-DME wrote:
\ I certainly hope this laziness does not extend to his piloting
activities, otherwise _bad things_ could happen!

No, nothing bad is ever going to happen there, simply because he
has no actual "piloting activities." Whenever he speaks of "piloting,"
he's actually talking about "flying" Microsoft Flight Simulator. So
nothing remotely like a real aircraft or passengers will ever be in any
danger.

Bob M.

Bob Myers writes:

And you somehow think that sort of thing is unique to Italian
companies?

No. It afflicts companies in Latin countries to some extent, depending on how
macho the country and culture are. Some other non-Latin countries have the
same problem. You can recognize a culture like this by its high levels of
poverty and corruption.

After ~30 years of working in various aspects of the engineering
profession, with a goodly load of supplier qualification work in
that time, I can tell you with some confidence that the country in
which a given company is located has precisely zero to do with
whether or not they're going to be an acceptable supplier.

My experience and training have shown significant cultural differences that
cannot be ignored.

Mxsmanic wrote:
My experience and training have shown significant cultural
differences that cannot be ignored.

And again - that "experience and training," relevant to this topic,
would be - what, exactly? And is it as extensive as your experience
and training in piloting?

Bob M.