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"stop spam" wrote in message ... From a blog I frequent... interesting parallel, perhaps, especially if you compare the Iran-Iraq war and the invasion of Kuwait with Hitler's pre-1939 maneuvering? If, in 1937, Franklin D. Roosevelt would have invaded Germany, captured Hitler, neutralized the Nazi party, and dismantled the standing military, thus saving europe from the ravages of war, genocide, and crimes against humanity, then the United States would have been condemned in shame by the world as an imperialist nation of pre-emptive aggressors, and FDR would have been cast out of office in the subsequent election. ....and yet, he would have been a Genius who was never celebrated for it. It would have been impossible. The US Army in 1937 wasnt big enough to invade any country in Europe except Monaco and Lichenstein Keith |
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Keith Willshaw wrote: The US Army in 1937 wasnt big enough to invade any country in Europe except Monaco and Lichenstein IIRC, the U.S. Armed Forces ranked 20-th in the world, behind the armed forces of Roumania! Bob Kolker |
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Emmanuel Gustin wrote: in 1937. Simply overturning Germany would at best have resulted in a postponement of the crisis Errrr...... No. It would have stopped WW2. Most Germans would have been glad to have seen Nazi tryanny overurned. Many Germans simply feared the Nazis and went along meekly - too afraid to say even Booh ! Graham |
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In article 9Yq1d.187109$Fg5.159779@attbi_s53,
"robert j. kolker" writes: Emmanuel Gustin wrote: The problem with such comparisons is that right-wingers are always comparing Bush with Churchill, FDR, Kennedy, etc.; Just what did Kennedy do in his short 3 years, besides screw up the Bay of Pigs invasion? Creating the Camelot ambiance does not count. Well, there was also the Berlin Crisis of 1961, which saw a long-term nuclear showdown with the Soviets, including having the the National Guard activated to, among other things, stand Victor Alert (That's nuclear bombs at the end of the runway) in Europe, and that Cuban Missile Thingy, and continuous Airborne Alert with fully armed B-52s - until a couple of them crashed with live weapons on board, and the MLF (Multi-Lateral Force: Basically big freighters with Polaris missile tubes and NATO crews, which would Sail the Seas to deter the Soviets. (As Tom Lehrer put it "We've got the missiles, the peace to deter-mine, and one of the fingers on the Button will be German.")) We spent most of the Kennedy era with the Guard and Reserve activated, with everybody primed for Nuclear Conflict, toe-to-toe with the Russkies. One crisis after another. Now, mind you, a lot of that was due to Kruschev's hopeless misreading of Kennedy's intellect and willpower, but I can recall some rather scary times. -- Pete Stickney A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many bad measures. -- Daniel Webster |
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"Pooh Bear" wrote in message ... Emmanuel Gustin wrote: in 1937. Simply overturning Germany would at best have resulted in a postponement of the crisis Errrr...... No. It would have stopped WW2. Most Germans would have been glad to have seen Nazi tryanny overurned. Many Germans simply feared the Nazis and went along meekly - too afraid to say even Booh ! Actually most Germans thought Hitler was doing just fine untill well into the war, ofcourse after the war they naturaly sung a very different tune, had to if they expected to hold down any job better than ditch digging. Through the 30's the Nazies were very populer and really only oppressed the small minority who activly oposed them, or the Jews, but then who in Europe at the time thought oppresing jews was a bad thing? Graham |
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B2431 wrote:
From: "robert j. kolker" Just what did Kennedy do in his short 3 years, besides screw up the Bay of Pigs invasion? Creating the Camelot ambiance does not count. Bob Kolker He boffed Marylin Monroe True , upset Kruschev over the missiles in Cuba and Or, in other words, for the price of shipping a few missiles back and forth to Cuba once, Kruschev managed to get JFK to abrogate the Monroe Doctrine. beefed up the green beanies. True. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired Well, two of of three isn't bad. |
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"Keith Willshaw" wrote: "stop spam" wrote in message ... From a blog I frequent... interesting parallel, perhaps, especially if you compare the Iran-Iraq war and the invasion of Kuwait with Hitler's pre-1939 maneuvering? If, in 1937, Franklin D. Roosevelt would have invaded Germany, captured Hitler, neutralized the Nazi party, and dismantled the standing military, thus saving europe from the ravages of war, genocide, and crimes against humanity, then the United States would have been condemned in shame by the world as an imperialist nation of pre-emptive aggressors, and FDR would have been cast out of office in the subsequent election. ....and yet, he would have been a Genius who was never celebrated for it. It would have been impossible. The US Army in 1937 wasnt big enough to invade any country in Europe except Monaco and Lichenstein Couldn't have afforded the steamship tickets to get over there, either. |
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Pooh Bear wrote: Emmanuel Gustin wrote: in 1937. Simply overturning Germany would at best have resulted in a postponement of the crisis Errrr...... No. It would have stopped WW2. Part of it, perhaps. Japan was already rampaging through China and the Far East, and Italy was already fumbling around in Africa. Most Germans would have been glad to have seen Nazi tryanny overurned. Many Germans simply feared the Nazis and went along meekly - too afraid to say even Booh ! There was clearly a bit more support than that. There weren't enough Nazis around to drag the entire population along unwillingly. |
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