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Judah wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote in
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All the information the database contains, if you have no other source.
Additionally, if you depend on the information in the database update,
and it's wrong because you failed to update it, and you have an
accident, you are not using all available information.

If you don't have a current GPS database, you MUST use another source as
primary for navigation. Otherwise it is negligence.

It is not just negligence, it is a violation of the FARs.

Ron Natalie writes:

No, what part of YOUR WRONG do you not understand?

I understand it, but I know that it's an incorrect assertion.

I find it amusing that people say I'm wrong, then restate what I said and say
it's right. I guess they just can't tolerate me saying it instead of them.

The IFR-approved GPS's (for the most part) require the up-to-date
database in their flight manual. That flight manual is a legal
document that is required by the Supplemental Type Certificate
that legally allowed the GPS to be installed in the plane.

It is a LEGAL REQUIREMENT.

Not for you as a pilot, if you are not using it to fly IFR. If you are using
it as a supplementary navigational aid to fly VFR, or if you are not using it
at all, it need not be up to date.

See 91.213 and 91.205 for details.

You as usual are confusing this group with your made up disinformation.
Go away until you spend the time to actually learn what you are talking
about.

I have. See above.

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Ron Natalie writes:

It will count against you even if you don't have an accident. The
FAA never ramp checks guys jerking off in Paris.

Which regulation requires that the database be current?

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If you don't have a current GPS database, you MUST use another source
as primary for navigation. Otherwise it is negligence.


It is not just negligence, it is a violation of the FARs.


You guys are making this **** up. It depends on the box. Most approach
approved boxes will not go into approach mode unless the database is
current. You can use them for any other purpose as long as you have
verified the data is correct. The non approach boxes are the same way,
as long as the data is correct, it need not be a current database.

Newps wrote in
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If you don't have a current GPS database, you MUST use another source
as primary for navigation. Otherwise it is negligence.

You guys are making this **** up. It depends on the box. Most approach
approved boxes will not go into approach mode unless the database is
current. You can use them for any other purpose
as long as you have verified the data is correct.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

How do you verify the data is correct?

By using another source.

Judah wrote:
Newps wrote in
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If you don't have a current GPS database, you MUST use another source
as primary for navigation. Otherwise it is negligence.

You guys are making this **** up. It depends on the box. Most approach
approved boxes will not go into approach mode unless the database is
current. You can use them for any other purpose
as long as you have verified the data is correct.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

How do you verify the data is correct?


Has the airport moved? The VOR?


By using another source.

Your context means within the plane while flying, which is flat wrong.

Newps wrote in
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Has the airport moved? The VOR?

The GPS I use includes runway and frequency information, too. This would be
included in the GPS update, and need to be verified using an alternative
source if the update was not purchased. Your statement implies that you
assume that the GPS update is irrelevant barring a major plate shift.

If that is your belief, I disagree.

Your context means within the plane while flying, which is flat wrong.

Not at all.

My context was in response to Manic's statements implying that there is no
alternative to buying a GPS update, and his expression that if someone fails
to update his GPS database, he cannot get "all available information".

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Ron Natalie writes:

No, what part of YOUR WRONG do you not understand?

I understand it, but I know that it's an incorrect assertion.

I find it amusing that people say I'm wrong, then restate what I said and
say
it's right. I guess they just can't tolerate me saying it instead of
them.

The IFR-approved GPS's (for the most part) require the up-to-date
database in their flight manual. That flight manual is a legal
document that is required by the Supplemental Type Certificate
that legally allowed the GPS to be installed in the plane.

It is a LEGAL REQUIREMENT.

Not for you as a pilot, if you are not using it to fly IFR. If you are
using
it as a supplementary navigational aid to fly VFR, or if you are not using
it
at all, it need not be up to date.

See 91.213 and 91.205 for details.

You as usual are confusing this group with your made up disinformation.
Go away until you spend the time to actually learn what you are talking
about.

I have. See above.


Still haven't mastered that reading and comprehension thing have you, or is
this just another one of your lame assed attempts at a troll.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Ron Natalie writes:

It will count against you even if you don't have an accident. The
FAA never ramp checks guys jerking off in Paris.

Which regulation requires that the database be current?


You're the living version of Wikipedia, you tell us?

On 4/5/2007 10:13 PM Mxsmanic jumped down, turned around, and wrote:

Maxwell writes:

You don't even understand your operating system do you?

I used to write operating systems.

So? Who cares? What does this have to do with aviation?
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