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Russian Air Force may receive fifth-generation fighter in 2013
"JG" wrote in message ... On Jul 11, 12:56 pm, Jack Linthicum wrote: On Jul 11, 1:28 pm, Mike wrote: Russian Air Force may receive fifth-generation fighter in 2013 ZHUKOVSKY (Moscow Region), July 7 (RIA Novosti) - Russia is expecting a new fifth-generation fighter to enter service in 2013, the Air Force commander said on Monday. "We will begin test flights [of the new fighter] in 2009, and hope to receive the aircraft in 2013," Col. Gen. Alexander Zelin said. The new fighter aircraft, tentatively designated as the Sukhoi PAK FA or T-50, will be built at the Komsomolsk-on-Amur aircraft manufacturing plant in Russia's Far East. The T-50 fighter, equipped with two powerful engines with thrust vectoring, will feature high maneuverability and stealth to ensure air superiority and precision in destroying ground and sea targets. Some experts believe the PAK FA fighter has been designed to be comparable to both the American F-22 Raptor and F-35 Lightning II. It will eventually replace the MiG-29 Fulcrum and Su-27 Flanker fighters in the Russian Air Force and will be exported to other countries. Interesting, it hasn't even flown yet and is at least two years late. Typical Russian Its taking longer for their Indian correspondents to gather the designs and software from US "sources"...JG Yes I believe the Chinese may now have a few of them, they're a very secretive sort. cheers....Jeff |
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Russian Air Force may receive fifth-generation fighter in 2013
Outspend em again
in general, term "expensive" does not mean the best one we already have had G5 thing to try long time ago see, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R2lm2QzCp8 Kind russian regards, Yuri www.testpilots.ru |
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Russian Air Force may receive fifth-generation fighter in 2013
On Jul 18, 4:50 pm, wrote:
Outspend em again in general, term "expensive" does not mean the best one we already have had G5 thing to try long time ago see,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R2lm2QzCp8 Kind russian regards, Yuri www.testpilots.ru Although I can respect the impressive engineering in the MiG 1.42, Su 27/37 series, S.47 I can not take them seriously as 5th generation fighters. They are barely 4th generation aircraft. They are barely and improvement over the F-15. The Americans have with the F22 produced an air superiority fighter that is vastly superior to anything else in the world whether that be French, European or CIS or Russian. By vastly superior I mean that the kill ratio will be in favour of the F-22 by a very large margin. This is easy to understand, the F-22 will detect any opposing aircraft first, it will then be able to fire a missile first and destroy the it enemy in large numbers. Modern missiles are quite reliable. The Russian officers and engineers who set out to produce the MiG 1.42 and S.47 and Su 37 set out to produce an aircraft better than the 35 year old F-15. They succeeded in producing a slightly better aircraft in some areas. The USAF strategists and engineers who created the F-22 produced a completely new concept that makes irrelevant these old ideas. What the Mikoyan and Sukhoi have succeeded in producing are aircraft that have the same thrust to weight ratio as the F-15 and the same armament levels but better instantaneous turn rates due to more complicated aerodynamics, possibly they have smaller radar signatures but only by a small amount (a reduction by a factor of 10 is insignificant). These so called 5th generation aircraft are only slightly better than the 35 year old F-15. When the F-15 is upgraded with modern radar (eg AESA) and missiles there is little better about the new Soviet fighters except better dog fighting though there climb rates and acceleration is likely to be little better. I understand that the Russian or CIS short range missiles have evolved exceptional maneuverability. The F-22 is designed to destroy its opponents well before a dogfight can occur. I'm sure if a dogfight does occur the F-22 with its truly exceptional thrust to weight ratio and very high cruise speed will do very well. In seeking to produce their own stealth fighters the Russian air force has acknowledged this. Attempts to produce stealth defeating radars based in impulses or bi static principles will loose much of their effectiveness in the presence of simple noise jamming. |
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