traitorous SOB

"Mike Marron" wrote in message
...
"Divine Shadow" wrote:

[snipped for brevity]

The fact that he came home from what he felt to be an immoral and evil war
and tried to stop it using his Constitutional rights makes him a man of
character, not a traitor.

Most excellent point. However, while we cannot attack Kerry on his
military record or his anti-war protests that followed, we can attack
his politcal record such as his waffling around with regards to the
current unpleasantries in Southwest Asia.

Current unpleasantries in Southwest Asia? What specifically are we talking
about?

George Z.

"George Z. Bush" wrote:
"Mike Marron" wrote:
"Divine Shadow" wrote:

The fact that he came home from what he felt to be an immoral and evil war
and tried to stop it using his Constitutional rights makes him a man of
character, not a traitor.

Most excellent point. However, while we cannot attack Kerry on his
military record or his anti-war protests that followed, we can attack
his politcal record such as his waffling around with regards to the
current unpleasantries in Southwest Asia.

Current unpleasantries in Southwest Asia? What specifically are we talking
about?

Excuse me. I was referring to the war on terrorism which is actually
global but it's primarily being waged in both Southwest and Southeast
Asia and of course, the Middle East.

From: "M. J. Powell"
Date: 2/4/2004 8:33 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In message , xray writes
Must be talking about Bush, lying and cheating. We are the laughing
stock of the world, going to war under false pretences. What a smear on
the honor and credibility of the U.S.
Like father like son, one term presidents. It's all over. He is getting
deaned. The people of the United States are starting to get the
picture. 53 to 47 percent.
And what is this story that Bush went awol? (does that stand for away
without leave?)

Brit expression: Absent Without Leave.

If it lasts long enough it's 'Desertion'.

Mike
--
M.J.Powell


U.S. expression = absent without official leave.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

In message , B2431
writes
From: "M. J. Powell"
Date: 2/4/2004 8:33 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In message , xray writes
Must be talking about Bush, lying and cheating. We are the laughing
stock of the world, going to war under false pretences. What a smear on
the honor and credibility of the U.S.
Like father like son, one term presidents. It's all over. He is getting
deaned. The people of the United States are starting to get the
picture. 53 to 47 percent.
And what is this story that Bush went awol? (does that stand for away
without leave?)

Brit expression: Absent Without Leave.

If it lasts long enough it's 'Desertion'.

Mike
--
M.J.Powell


U.S. expression = absent without official leave.

Is there unofficial leave in the US forces?

Mike
--
M.J.Powell

M. J. Powell wrote:

In message , B2431
writes

From: "M. J. Powell"
Date: 2/4/2004 8:33 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In message , xray writes

Must be talking about Bush, lying and cheating. We are the laughing
stock of the world, going to war under false pretences. What a smear on
the honor and credibility of the U.S.
Like father like son, one term presidents. It's all over. He is getting
deaned. The people of the United States are starting to get the
picture. 53 to 47 percent.
And what is this story that Bush went awol? (does that stand for away
without leave?)


Brit expression: Absent Without Leave.

If it lasts long enough it's 'Desertion'.

Mike
--
M.J.Powell


U.S. expression = absent without official leave.


Is there unofficial leave in the US forces?

Mike

Yeah, it's called AWOL (Absent WithOut Leave)(USN - 1957-1963) and
sometimes Desertion. B-)

George

On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 15:35:55 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
wrote:

"Peter Kemp" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 14:31:11 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
wrote:

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com/

First of all, that's off topic crap. Secondly, it's a riotously funny
website - the first chunk demonstrates Kerry's excellent service
record, then calls him a traitor for exercising his constitutionally
guaranteed right to free speech. LOL

The site is a military subject. If you have a problem understanding the
words, recreation, aviation and military, I suggest you seek a dictionary.

I suggest you understand the word aviation, which you so kindly quoted
above. Kerry was a small boat commander.

Duh!

Peter Kemp

"Mike Marron" wrote in message
...
"George Z. Bush" wrote:
"Mike Marron" wrote:
"Divine Shadow" wrote:

The fact that he came home from what he felt to be an immoral and evil war
and tried to stop it using his Constitutional rights makes him a man of
character, not a traitor.

Most excellent point. However, while we cannot attack Kerry on his
military record or his anti-war protests that followed, we can attack
his politcal record such as his waffling around with regards to the
current unpleasantries in Southwest Asia.

Current unpleasantries in Southwest Asia? What specifically are we talking
about?

Excuse me. I was referring to the war on terrorism which is actually
global but it's primarily being waged in both Southwest and Southeast
Asia and of course, the Middle East.

OK, but he voted against the war on terrorism, so where's the waffling? And
before you say it, the war on terrorism is the war against OBL and the Taliban;
in many people's eyes, it does NOT include the war on Iraq. That's a military
adventure waged for still unexplained reasons, the war on terrorism not being
one of them.

George Z.

From: "M. J. Powell"


In message , B2431
writes
From: "M. J. Powell"
Date: 2/4/2004 8:33 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In message , xray writes
Must be talking about Bush, lying and cheating. We are the laughing
stock of the world, going to war under false pretences. What a smear on
the honor and credibility of the U.S.
Like father like son, one term presidents. It's all over. He is getting
deaned. The people of the United States are starting to get the
picture. 53 to 47 percent.
And what is this story that Bush went awol? (does that stand for away
without leave?)

Brit expression: Absent Without Leave.

If it lasts long enough it's 'Desertion'.

Mike
--
M.J.Powell


U.S. expression = absent without official leave.

Is there unofficial leave in the US forces?

Mike
--
M.J.Powell

Yes, it's called a pass or compensatory time off.

Danh, U. S. Air Force, retired

"George Z. Bush" wrote:
"Mike Marron" wrote:

Excuse me. I was referring to the war on terrorism which is actually
global but it's primarily being waged in both Southwest and Southeast
Asia and of course, the Middle East.

OK, but he voted against the war on terrorism, so where's the waffling? And
before you say it, the war on terrorism is the war against OBL and the Taliban;
in many people's eyes, it does NOT include the war on Iraq. That's a military
adventure waged for still unexplained reasons, the war on terrorism not being
one of them.

This has all been explained/debated/argued countless times before.

Sorry amigo, but you're just gonna have to get used to the GOP
controlling the White House for (at least!) another four years!

On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 18:47:00 -0500, "George Z. Bush"
wrote:


OK, but he voted against the war on terrorism, so where's the waffling? And
before you say it, the war on terrorism is the war against OBL and the Taliban;
in many people's eyes, it does NOT include the war on Iraq. That's a military
adventure waged for still unexplained reasons, the war on terrorism not being
one of them.

George Z.

Might want to update your terrorism charts there. We've got troops
deployed around the world and the fight isn't just against OBL and the
the Taliban. There's terrorist activity in the Philippines, in
Somalia, in several countries in Africa, in S. America and many more
places. Almost all of the hot spots have small detached units of US
military deployed.

And, I'd say characterizing Operation Iraqi Freedom as "waged for
still unexplained reasons" is a gross over-simplification. There have
been lots of reasons explained and they extend well beyond this canard
of "no WMD".



Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
Smithsonian Institution Press
ISBN #1-58834-103-8