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Call signs
When I used to fly Cessna 152's and 172's, I'd always just say "Cessna
12345...". Now that I fly Piper Warriors, I began using "Piper 12345...", but then I realized no one else says just "Piper", they say "Seneca 12345", or "Twin Comanche 12345...", so I began using the callsign "Warrior 12345..." to fit in with the rest. This makes more sense, considering the point of putting your aircraft type before your tail number is to specify what you are. If you just say "Cessna", you don't know if its a Citation X, or a 140, just that it's a Cessna. And you'd think with all the 172s in existance I'd come across a single instance of a pilot using "Skyhawk" in their call sign, but I've yet to witness one. Anyways, so I begin using "Warior" instead of Piper. When I got my instrument rating and started doing IFR stuff, I noticed no matter what I use, ATC always addresses me as "Cherokee 12345". Once I even tried to get an IFR clearance that went something like this: Me: Clearance, Warroir 4458U on the ground at LUK, IFR to HZY [45 seconds of silence]... Me [slower]: Clearance, Warroir 4458U on the grund at LUK, IFR to HZY Controller: Aircraft calling, say call sign again Me: 4...4...5...8...U controller: Cherokee 4458U you are cleared to.... What I think happened here is that he misunderstood "Warrior" as me saying "four" or something. When I file all I say for type is PA-28, and to ATC guys a PA-28 is a Cherokee. So from that point on, I now use Cherokee as my call sign, even though it says "Warrior III" on the side, and nowhere in the POH or anywhere else does it have the word "Cherokee". I know its not a big deal, but I was just wondering, what do all the other Warrior people use? |
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I know its not a big deal, but I was just wondering, what do all the other Warrior people use? When we owned a Warrior we always called ourselves "Warrior 33431" to ATC, and never had a problem. Our problems began when we started calling ourselves "Pathfinder 56993." NO ONE knows what a Pathfinder is, cuz Piper only made a relative handful of them before changing the name to "Dakota" -- which everyone seems to know. Thus, we have taken to calling ourselves "Dakota 56993" rather than hassle with the explanations. I don't think you'll have any trouble calling yourselves a Warrior. If they change it to "Cherokee" I suppose that's there choice. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message oups.com... I know its not a big deal, but I was just wondering, what do all the other Warrior people use? When we owned a Warrior we always called ourselves "Warrior 33431" to ATC, and never had a problem. Our problems began when we started calling ourselves "Pathfinder 56993." NO ONE knows what a Pathfinder is, cuz Piper only made a relative handful of them before changing the name to "Dakota" -- which everyone seems to know. Thus, we have taken to calling ourselves "Dakota 56993" rather than hassle with the explanations. I don't think you'll have any trouble calling yourselves a Warrior. If they change it to "Cherokee" I suppose that's there choice. -- Jay Honeck I use "Skyhawk nnnn" in the 172, consistently. The only time I've ever had ATC come back and ask for more was in a different airplane and I called in "Commuter nnnn." |
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On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 22:56:07 GMT, "Casey Wilson" N2310D @ gmail.com
wrote: I use "Skyhawk nnnn" in the 172, consistently. That's the style at the (non-towered) airfield at which I do my flying. The Cubs don't have installed radios, and I've never heard another Cub Driver on the radio, so I make my own style. I say "Piper Cub" XXXX because it trips fast off the tongue. After the first call I saw "the Cub" with no numbers. Again, non-towered. At a towered field, I use whatever the controller used when he first replied to me, typically the last three numbers/digits. -- all the best, Dan Ford email (put Cubdriver in subject line) Warbird's Forum: www.warbirdforum.com Piper Cub Forum: www.pipercubforum.com the blog: www.danford.net In Search of Lost Time: www.readingproust.com |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote I don't think you'll have any trouble calling yourselves a Warrior. If they change it to "Cherokee" I suppose that's there choice. Jay, you must be really behind on sleep, or something. You wrote "that's (there ?) choice." That isn't at all like you! Since Barnyard BoB hasn't been around lately, I thought I would take an unusual jab! g -- Jim in NC |
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Jay, you must be really behind on sleep, or something. You wrote "that's
(there ?) choice." That isn't at all like you! Hoo, boy -- that's sad, isn't it? I really kicked that post out a bit TOO quickly, I guess. We've had a really busy day at the inn -- another wedding party, and tornados rocking and rolling us around. I ain't got time to bleed, er, I mean, to spell... My son is NOT going to want to clean the pool tomorrow... ;-) -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote another wedding party, and tornados rocking and rolling us around. Tornadoes, Huh. I haven't looked at a weather map today. I've gotta say that I don't miss that aspect of Ohio, and you are worse with tornadoes by a factor of ten, or so. One thing that the South has, that Ohio does not have very often, are "toad strangler" rain storms. It is not unusual in the summer, to get a squall that dumps an inch, or 3/4ths of an inch in 15 minutes. Sometimes, on rare occasion, it is more than that. -- Jim in NC |
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tornados rocking and rolling us around.
Tornadoes, Huh. I haven't looked at a weather map today. I've gotta say that I don't miss that aspect of Ohio, and you are worse with tornadoes by a factor of ten, or so. Yeah, well, nine out of ten of our supposed "tornados" are merely the creations of the apoplectic weather guys on TV and at the National Weather Service. Remember, these are the very same guys who got schools cancelled here last winter because of the THREAT of an imminent "huge" snow storm. Last night, they blew the warning sirens here twice. The first time I was watching the cell approaching on Doppler radar, and KNEW they were full of crap -- but the weatherman was looking at the same cell and taking phone calls on live TV from people who were supposedly watching barns blow down. So, when the sirens went off a SECOND time, I reluctantly got Mary and the kids up, and we all traipsed down into the basement (which is where my office, workshop, rec room, bar, and Mary's sewing room is -- so we ain't exactly huddled in a root cellar) to wait it out. Of course, when the "killer cell" hit, the wind gusted to 30, and a few drops of rain fell. I don't think it even got the deck completely wet. Wow, was Mary ****ed. These hyped up crazy TV weather men are going to get someone killed some day. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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While we're at this, I heard a pilot preface his call sign with "Turkey"
(nnnn). What's that?? Or was I hearing wrong? "Jay Honeck" wrote in message oups.com... I know its not a big deal, but I was just wondering, what do all the other Warrior people use? When we owned a Warrior we always called ourselves "Warrior 33431" to ATC, and never had a problem. Our problems began when we started calling ourselves "Pathfinder 56993." NO ONE knows what a Pathfinder is, cuz Piper only made a relative handful of them before changing the name to "Dakota" -- which everyone seems to know. Thus, we have taken to calling ourselves "Dakota 56993" rather than hassle with the explanations. I don't think you'll have any trouble calling yourselves a Warrior. If they change it to "Cherokee" I suppose that's there choice. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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H.P. wrote: While we're at this, I heard a pilot preface his call sign with "Turkey" (nnnn). What's that?? Or was I hearing wrong? No you got that right. He was referring to his low wing. |
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