12 dead this weekend from GA crashes

"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...
6 in South Carolina, 3 in Wisconsin, 3 in Florida (another Cirrus).

A current AOPA focus is to make sure flying remains affordable for owners
of "tired iron."

They awarded a 1974 plane to a lucky winner in Colorado.

On this web page a writer laments that GA planes don't have locking gas
caps.

And the beat goes on..... Who needs The Sopranos for drama when we have
"General Aviation, Entertaining America?"


We had two fatal road crashed here this morning during rush hour. Guess it
is time to shut all those dangerous roads down, either that or we are not
adequately training our drivers.

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DW

Skylune wrote:
6 in South Carolina, 3 in Wisconsin, 3 in Florida (another Cirrus).




So what?

Interesting statistics, but as I'm sure you know, 73.8% of published
statistics are incorrect.

They are talking about pilots and navigators as an occupation. They also
show 90 deaths in 2002 and claim that represents 69.8 deaths per 100,000
employed. That yields 128,940 employed in the field.

Another page from the Bureau of Labor Statistics shows 106,000 employed as
pilots or flight engineers.

Looking through the NTSB site, I only found 48 fatalities in 28 accidents
looking at part 121 (scheduled airlines - 0 fatal) part 135 (non-scheduled
air taxi - 36) part 133 (three fatal) and part 137 (agriculture - 9 fatal).
That only accounts for 48 deaths, not 90. It's still a pretty high number.

The other point is that although on the chart you pointed out Pilots and
Navgators had the highest percentage of fatalaties per 100,000 employed,
they also had the lowest number of deaths.

How much effort should go into saving these 90 people when 2667 people died
in the nine occupations with higher numbers of deaths?


"Skylune" wrote in message


You'd be acting in your own self interest if you do. See below, esp. p. 6
and 8.

http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfoi/cfch0001.pdf

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The Monk

by "Steve Foley" Feb 6, 2006 at 07:29 PM


Interesting statistics, but as I'm sure you know, 73.8% of published
statistics are incorrect.

They are talking about pilots and navigators as an occupation. They also
show 90 deaths in 2002 and claim that represents 69.8 deaths per 100,000
employed. That yields 128,940 employed in the field.

Another page from the Bureau of Labor Statistics shows 106,000 employed
as
pilots or flight engineers.

Looking through the NTSB site, I only found 48 fatalities in 28 accidents
looking at part 121 (scheduled airlines - 0 fatal) part 135
(non-scheduled
air taxi - 36) part 133 (three fatal) and part 137 (agriculture - 9
fatal).
That only accounts for 48 deaths, not 90. It's still a pretty high
number.

The other point is that although on the chart you pointed out Pilots and
Navgators had the highest percentage of fatalaties per 100,000 employed,
they also had the lowest number of deaths.

How much effort should go into saving these 90 people when 2667 people
died
in the nine occupations with higher numbers of deaths?

Interesting: I don't know where BLS gets its statistics. One would think
directly from employers, but I'm not sure. I'll try to find out.

by Newps Feb 6, 2006 at 12:17 PM


Skylune wrote:
6 in South Carolina, 3 in Wisconsin, 3 in Florida (another Cirrus).




So what?

Excellent question. Personally, I would vote to discontinue NTSB
investigations. If a small plane crashes, I agree, "so what?" Why waste
the money when its almost always pilot error? As long as no one on the
ground is hurt, who cares?

Anybody flying the same equipment would like some assurance it was the
Indian not the arrow.

"Skylune" wrote in message

Excellent question. Personally, I would vote to discontinue NTSB
investigations. If a small plane crashes, I agree, "so what?" Why
waste
the money when its almost always pilot error? As long as no one on the
ground is hurt, who cares?

"Flyingmonk" wrote in message ...
STOP IT! STOPT IT! NO MORE! fingers in both ears. La La La La La La
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The guy has some serious mental issues and is just trolling to cause
trouble.

This is what happens when these people are let out on the street without
supervision. They go off their meds----- and some of them wind up here in
rec. aviation.

Cheers:

Paul
N1431A

by "Tri-Pacer" Feb 6, 2006 at 01:34 PM

The guy has some serious mental issues and is just trolling to cause
trouble.

This is what happens when these people are let out on the street without
supervision. They go off their meds----- and some of them wind up here in

rec. aviation.

Cheers:

Paul
N1431A

Is that your own personal excuse for winding up here? Salut!

("Flyingmonk" wrote)
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