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Status of CVW-17
I bought a copy of Air Forces Monthly last weekend, that includes an
overview of the current USN carrier wing compositions. To my amazement I saw that CVW-17 currently doesn't seem to have _any_ Hornet squadrons assigned to it. Until recently it had four: VFA-103 Jolly Rogers is part of CVW-7, as is VFA-83 Rampagers. The two other squadrons have been assigned to West Coast Air wings, although they are still home-based at Oceana: VFA-34 Blue Blasters is part of CVW-2 and VFA-81 Sunliners is assigned to CVW-11. So, what's going on? Will other Hornet squadrons be assigned to CVW-17 by the time that it deploys again? Cheers, Ralph |
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Status of CVW-17
Ralph_S wrote: I bought a copy of Air Forces Monthly last weekend, that includes an overview of the current USN carrier wing compositions. To my amazement I saw that CVW-17 currently doesn't seem to have _any_ Hornet squadrons assigned to it. Until recently it had four: VFA-103 Jolly Rogers is part of CVW-7, as is VFA-83 Rampagers. The two other squadrons have been assigned to West Coast Air wings, although they are still home-based at Oceana: VFA-34 Blue Blasters is part of CVW-2 and VFA-81 Sunliners is assigned to CVW-11. So, what's going on? Will other Hornet squadrons be assigned to CVW-17 by the time that it deploys again? That's the $64 question. CVW-17, having been assigned to JFK is currently *assigned* to a deck (GW) which is in the yards for about a year, and then she's to move to Japan. So the shortfall in Hornet squadrons in other CVWs are being made up, no so much as from USMC VMFAs, but by VFAs from CVW-17. The real question is; what's to happen to CVW-17? Because there's not another deck available given the decision to axe JFK without a 1-for-1 replacement. Fun times ahead, as indicated in another posting about the new challenges facing NavAir. MW |
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Status of CVW-17
Mike Weeks wrote: Ralph_S wrote: I bought a copy of Air Forces Monthly last weekend, that includes an overview of the current USN carrier wing compositions. To my amazement I saw that CVW-17 currently doesn't seem to have _any_ Hornet squadrons assigned to it. Until recently it had four: VFA-103 Jolly Rogers is part of CVW-7, as is VFA-83 Rampagers. The two other squadrons have been assigned to West Coast Air wings, although they are still home-based at Oceana: VFA-34 Blue Blasters is part of CVW-2 and VFA-81 Sunliners is assigned to CVW-11. So, what's going on? Will other Hornet squadrons be assigned to CVW-17 by the time that it deploys again? That's the $64 question. CVW-17, having been assigned to JFK is currently *assigned* to a deck (GW) which is in the yards for about a year, and then she's to move to Japan. So the shortfall in Hornet squadrons in other CVWs are being made up, no so much as from USMC VMFAs, but by VFAs from CVW-17. The real question is; what's to happen to CVW-17? Because there's not another deck available given the decision to axe JFK without a 1-for-1 replacement. Fun times ahead, as indicated in another posting about the new challenges facing NavAir. MW Thanks Mike, I read that post, and considered adding my question regarding CVW-17 to that thread since I thought the underlying problem was probably the same: a shortage of aircraft. However, if I understand you correctly this seemingly is also coupled to a decrease in the number of carriers. With carriers undergoing refuelling and major refits (Carl Vinson) or shorter yard periods (GW), there seem to be more wings than available carriers, unless CVW-17 is axed. Cheers, Ralph |
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Status of CVW-17
Ralph_S wrote: Mike Weeks wrote: Ralph_S wrote: I bought a copy of Air Forces Monthly last weekend, that includes an overview of the current USN carrier wing compositions. To my amazement I saw that CVW-17 currently doesn't seem to have _any_ Hornet squadrons assigned to it. Until recently it had four: VFA-103 Jolly Rogers is part of CVW-7, as is VFA-83 Rampagers. The two other squadrons have been assigned to West Coast Air wings, although they are still home-based at Oceana: VFA-34 Blue Blasters is part of CVW-2 and VFA-81 Sunliners is assigned to CVW-11. So, what's going on? Will other Hornet squadrons be assigned to CVW-17 by the time that it deploys again? That's the $64 question. CVW-17, having been assigned to JFK is currently *assigned* to a deck (GW) which is in the yards for about a year, and then she's to move to Japan. So the shortfall in Hornet squadrons in other CVWs are being made up, no so much as from USMC VMFAs, but by VFAs from CVW-17. The real question is; what's to happen to CVW-17? Because there's not another deck available given the decision to axe JFK without a 1-for-1 replacement. Fun times ahead, as indicated in another posting about the new challenges facing NavAir. MW Thanks Mike, I read that post, and considered adding my question regarding CVW-17 to that thread since I thought the underlying problem was probably the same: a shortage of aircraft. However, if I understand you correctly this seemingly is also coupled to a decrease in the number of carriers. With carriers undergoing refuelling and major refits (Carl Vinson) or shorter yard periods (GW), there seem to be more wings than available carriers, unless CVW-17 is axed. That appears to be the bottom line. The situation with aircraft "life" is one situation, and the withdraw of JFK (i.e., one deck) is another; related to a degree with the other. With the on-going situation of a CVN in the yard for a 3-year refueling & major refit, the situation of mis-matched CVWs-to-deck will switch between those based on the east and west coast -- if there isn't a CVW axed. As has been the case for the pass 15 or so years, it's like jello when attempting to see how it all will play out ... g |
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Status of CVW-17
Nice to join a discussion like this again;-)
As far as I can catch the idea, CVW-17 is not going to be deactivated, but stays there to serve as a warehouse of "spare" squadrons, to be assigned to other wings if needed. I even heard the rumours that someday (in 2009?) it deplys again, with a set of FOUR Super Hornet squadrons assigned. I'd be also curious of the current status of other units, like CVW-2 or CVW-8. CVW-2 should be in a maintenance phase (Lincoln is in the yards), so I wonder if VFA-34 are still with them. CVW-8 makes some FRP training, but it must be missing a squadron (VFA-31 is not yet operationally capable, starting their transition to F/A-18Es). Remember - now it is the "Pool" philosophy, what means squadrons are no longer permanently assigned to particular air wings, so every move may generate the others. Best regards, Jacek Zemlo (superhornet at go2 dot pl) |
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Status of CVW-17
Mike Weeks wrote:
Ralph_S wrote: I bought a copy of Air Forces Monthly last weekend, that includes an overview of the current USN carrier wing compositions. To my amazement I saw that CVW-17 currently doesn't seem to have _any_ Hornet squadrons assigned to it. Until recently it had four: VFA-103 Jolly Rogers is part of CVW-7, as is VFA-83 Rampagers. The two other squadrons have been assigned to West Coast Air wings, although they are still home-based at Oceana: VFA-34 Blue Blasters is part of CVW-2 and VFA-81 Sunliners is assigned to CVW-11. So, what's going on? Will other Hornet squadrons be assigned to CVW-17 by the time that it deploys again? That's the $64 question. CVW-17, having been assigned to JFK is currently *assigned* to a deck (GW) which is in the yards for about a year, and then she's to move to Japan. So the shortfall in Hornet squadrons in other CVWs are being made up, no so much as from USMC VMFAs, but by VFAs from CVW-17. The real question is; what's to happen to CVW-17? Because there's not another deck available given the decision to axe JFK without a 1-for-1 replacement. Fun times ahead, as indicated in another posting about the new challenges facing NavAir. MW With the Chinese sub that got way too close I think ASW needs to be better rethought. IMHO al CVs would become ASW platforms. I have Harpoon classic & often create scenarios where an old CV performs this role. the US forces win EVERY time. I even launched Los Angeles Class subs at my CTF & they are busted. I tend to run Short Med & Long range so the Osprey takes LR missions, EH101 for MR/LR Missions & Seahawks for SR/MR missions. Fixed wing consist of 2-4 Harriers, & 4-6 Vikings for XLR/LR missions. I may vary this on several carriers. Ike |
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