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Just Bought A Plane? STAY OUT OF FLORIDA !
http://tinyurl.com/24og9o
Read about the bewildering details of a number of long-suffering non-resident pilots who have been caught in the FL tax trap, (otherwise known as the "Florida Landing Fee"). It starts like this... you buy a new or used aircraft and sign the bill of sale... which starts "the clock." It is Florida's position that for the next six months (possibly thereafter, though the burden of proof reportedly changes at that point), the state has the right to exact the requisite "Use Tax" (Sales Tax) for the fact you partook of the state's services unless you can show an equivalent Use or Sales Tax receipt from another state... In other words, for those of you who may have bought a $500K Cessna, Cirrus, Columbia, etc... unless you can prove that you paid the equivalent use tax in another state, you owe the state of Florida some $30K if you visited the state in the first six months of your ownership. Mind you, if your sales/use tax bill comes from a state that exacts LESS tax than Florida, the FL Department of Revenue still expects you to pony up the difference... and if you're from a state that exacts a minimum fee (like the few hundred dollars for owners in South Carolina), they will bill you for the WHOLE difference... and its up to you to fight them on it. No kidding. |
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Just Bought A Plane? STAY OUT OF FLORIDA !
That same thought process should work for a car or RV for that matter.
Way to go, FL! On Mar 22, 4:15*am, WJRFlyBoy wrote: http://tinyurl.com/24og9o Read about the bewildering details of a number of long-suffering non-resident pilots who have been caught in the FL tax trap, (otherwise known as the "Florida Landing Fee"). It starts like this... you buy a new or used aircraft and sign the bill of sale... which starts "the clock." It is Florida's position that for the next six months (possibly thereafter, though the burden of proof reportedly changes at that point), the state has the right to exact the requisite "Use Tax" (Sales Tax) for the fact you partook of the state's services unless you can show an equivalent Use or Sales Tax receipt from another state... In other words, for those of you who may have bought a $500K Cessna, Cirrus, Columbia, etc... unless you can prove that you paid the equivalent use tax in another state, you owe the state of Florida some $30K if you visited the state in the first six months of your ownership. Mind you, if your sales/use tax bill comes from a state that exacts LESS tax than Florida, the FL Department of Revenue still expects you to pony up the difference... and if you're from a state that exacts a minimum fee (like the few hundred dollars for owners in South Carolina), they will bill you for the WHOLE difference... and its up to you to fight them on it. No kidding. |
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Just Bought A Plane? STAY OUT OF FLORIDA !
There's nothing new here. AFAIK, every state has the same policy. You
buy a large ticket item out of state to avoid state sales/use tax and you're liable for the tax when you bring it home. It's a stretch to say that if you visit Florida you're going to get nailed for this tax. But, given where this item showed up and the author of it, I'm not surprised. Reading the article I'm not surprised to find his normal Sun and Fun bashing... John WJRFlyBoy wrote: http://tinyurl.com/24og9o Read about the bewildering details of a number of long-suffering non-resident pilots who have been caught in the FL tax trap, (otherwise known as the "Florida Landing Fee"). It starts like this... you buy a new or used aircraft and sign the bill of sale... which starts "the clock." It is Florida's position that for the next six months (possibly thereafter, though the burden of proof reportedly changes at that point), the state has the right to exact the requisite "Use Tax" (Sales Tax) for the fact you partook of the state's services unless you can show an equivalent Use or Sales Tax receipt from another state... In other words, for those of you who may have bought a $500K Cessna, Cirrus, Columbia, etc... unless you can prove that you paid the equivalent use tax in another state, you owe the state of Florida some $30K if you visited the state in the first six months of your ownership. Mind you, if your sales/use tax bill comes from a state that exacts LESS tax than Florida, the FL Department of Revenue still expects you to pony up the difference... and if you're from a state that exacts a minimum fee (like the few hundred dollars for owners in South Carolina), they will bill you for the WHOLE difference... and its up to you to fight them on it. No kidding. |
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Just Bought A Plane? STAY OUT OF FLORIDA !
On 2008-03-22, John Ammeter wrote:
It's a stretch to say that if you visit Florida you're going to get nailed for this tax. But, given where this item showed up and the author of it, I'm not surprised. Reading the article I'm not surprised to find his normal Sun and Fun bashing... I first heard about this when Phil Boyer mentioned it briefly at the AOPA Pilot's Town Meeting in Charlotte last Tuesday. It's real. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net http://www.hercules-390.org (Yes, that's me!) Buy Hercules stuff at http://www.cafepress.com/hercules-390 |
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Just Bought A Plane? STAY OUT OF FLORIDA !
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:06:35 GMT, Jay Maynard wrote:
On 2008-03-22, John Ammeter wrote: It's a stretch to say that if you visit Florida you're going to get nailed for this tax. But, given where this item showed up and the author of it, I'm not surprised. Reading the article I'm not surprised to find his normal Sun and Fun bashing... I first heard about this when Phil Boyer mentioned it briefly at the AOPA Pilot's Town Meeting in Charlotte last Tuesday. It's real. It is very real and is beginning to be a heavily enforced tax source for FL. Money from non constituents, political paradise. |
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ZZZzzz Just Bought A Plane? STAY OUT OF FLORIDA !
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 08:14:45 -0700, John Ammeter
wrote: It's a stretch to say that if you visit Florida you're going to get nailed for this tax. But, given where this item showed up and the author of it, I'm not surprised. Reading the article I'm not surprised to find his normal Sun and Fun bashing... Not to mention that Zoom is likely to be ticked at the Florida tax folks anyway. They filed at tax lien on his magazine company in 1996... http://ori2.polk-county.net/wb_or1/d...doc_s tatus=V Even though it's just for $126, they apparently hounded him about it for over eleven years, because he finally paid it off just two months ago: http://ori2.polk-county.net/wb_or1/d...doc _status=V There have been other tax liens against his companies over the years, plus of course the big dollop he owed when he took Airedale into bankruptcy. One does wonder, of course, whether his recent diatribe against the Florida tax folks might be a bit more personal. As I posted a couple of months back, ANN is registered as a Florida corporation... http://tinyurl.com/38p9cq ....but the company's airplane, N411AN, is registered to a North Carolina address. http://tinyurl.com/2js8wm Personally, if I were to take an editorial stance against aggressive tactics taken against potential scofflaws, I'd make sure I wasn't one of those scofflaws to begin with. If the staties *do* take action, he'll just claim that it's revenge for the article. Just like he claims that SnF banned him over his editorial stance, not his behavior. Ron Wanttaja |
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Just Bought A Plane? STAY OUT OF FLORIDA !
"John Ammeter" wrote ...
It's a stretch to say that if you visit Florida you're going to get nailed for this tax. But, given where this item showed up and the author of it, I'm not surprised. Reading the article I'm not surprised to find his normal Sun and Fun bashing... Yup,... I read this article at ANN a few days back and was saddened to think the old Capt Zoom is Back. I had become a fan Jim Campbell's latest effort with Aero-News Net. I visited it several times a week, even beginning to prefer it to AvWeb as a timely info source. I even went over and shook Jim's hand at Hartford AOPA Expo (where I saw him with camera crew in tow), to wish him success with his new Aero TV Video Network. I thought his video coverage at AirVenture was excellent. Unfortunately this Florida Tax article shows his backslide into the nasty side of his Capt Zoom alter ego, where he displays no hesitancy to use his media network against his perceived enemies. I can only assume that shortly before Jim penned that article he had again been denied Media Credentialed Access to Sun-n-Fun. No doubt a harsh reminder of his "ban for life". |
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Just Bought A Plane? STAY OUT OF FLORIDA !
In article xBgFj.638$Qv5.93@trnddc03, Mike Isaksen says...
Yup,... I read this article at ANN a few days back and was saddened to think the old Capt Zoom is Back. I had become a fan Jim Campbell's latest effort with Aero-News Net. I visited it several times a week, even beginning to prefer it to AvWeb as a timely info source. I even went over and shook Jim's hand at Hartford AOPA Expo (where I saw him with camera crew in tow), to wish him success with his new Aero TV Video Network. I thought his video coverage at AirVenture was excellent. Unfortunately this Florida Tax article shows his backslide into the nasty side of his Capt Zoom alter ego, where he displays no hesitancy to use his media network against his perceived enemies. I can only assume that shortly before Jim penned that article he had again been denied Media Credentialed Access to Sun-n-Fun. No doubt a harsh reminder of his "ban for life". Mike what you just found out is something a lot of us experienced a long time ago ,the Tiger never changes his stripes. It happened the first time when he was with a California based Magazine, he burned bridges and moved East and behaved himself . Then he had a nice magazine for a while and his nasty backside reared it evil vindictive head again and the zoom wars started in earnest. His magazine went bust.He went quiet again and behaved. ANN started and it's just a matter of time before the real zoom shows up aaaanndd He's Baack!! One thing for sure is that when he's acting up in public he's been active behind the scenes. He's still billing advertizers for ads they don't want. What you did when you shook his hand was to encourage him to think that he's justified in his actions.All he needs is one Atta Boy and he's off and running. He's still a phoney .IMHO. Chuck S Credibility it was always about credibility....Chuck S |
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Just Bought A Plane? STAY OUT OF FLORIDA !
On Mar 23, 10:47*am, ChuckSlusarczyk
wrote: In article xBgFj.638$Qv5.93@trnddc03, Mike Isaksen says... Yup,... I read this article at ANN a few days back and was saddened to think the old Capt Zoom is Back. I had become a fan Jim Campbell's latest effort with Aero-News Net. I visited it several times a week, even beginning to prefer it to AvWeb as a timely info source. I even went over and shook Jim's hand at Hartford AOPA Expo (where I saw him with camera crew in tow), to wish him success with his new Aero TV Video Network. I thought his video coverage at AirVenture was excellent. Unfortunately this Florida Tax article shows his backslide into the nasty side of his Capt Zoom alter ego, where he displays no hesitancy to use his media network against his perceived enemies. I can only assume that shortly before Jim penned that article he had again been denied Media Credentialed Access to Sun-n-Fun. No doubt a harsh reminder of his "ban for life". Mike what you just found out is something a lot of us experienced a long time ago ,the Tiger never changes his stripes. It happened the first time when he was with a California based Magazine, he burned bridges and moved East and behaved himself . Then he had a nice magazine for a while and his nasty backside reared it evil vindictive head again and the zoom wars started in earnest. His magazine went bust.He went quiet again and behaved. ANN started and it's just a matter of time before the real zoom shows up aaaanndd He's Baack!! One thing for sure *is that when he's acting up in public he's been active behind the scenes. He's still billing advertizers for ads they don't want. What you did when you shook his hand was to encourage him to think that he's justified in his actions.All he needs is one Atta Boy and he's off and running. He's still a phoney .IMHO. Chuck S Credibility it was always about credibility....Chuck S Hey Chuck!!! This latest line of zzzoom B.S. is one of those deals that just don't add up. Can you imagine Netjets or some outfit like that flying a new Gulfstream into Florida to pick up a charter and get that tax bill. Maybe the state should just post a tax collector at each gate at MIA and bill American every time they taxi in a new 777. I liked the part toward the end of his rant about SnF inflating their visitor count. I remember when the worthless ******* sued me (I won). He stated under oath that he had in excess of 45,000 paid subscribers to his so called magazine most believe it was closer to maybe 4,000 or less. This is just his latest ploy to stick it to SnF for barring him from the show. You can about set your watch by his annual anti- Sun n Fun rant. Frank M.Hitlaw at my Secret World Hq |
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