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"C J Campbell" wrote in message ... Baloney. No one's life is their own, nor is anyone an island to themselves. This is typical Liberal BS. When I hear someone else tell me how they are entitled to control my life I see red. I sure couldn't see myself taking my own life .. but would indeed be willing to defend my freedom against those wishing to control me. With maximum prejudice. |
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"Otis Winslow" wrote in message ... "C J Campbell" wrote in message ... Baloney. No one's life is their own, nor is anyone an island to themselves. This is typical Liberal BS. When I hear someone else tell me how they are entitled to control my life I see red. When somebody commits suicide they are in fact attempting to control your life. They want you to pay for their problems, raise their kids, pay their medical bills, etc. You know, it really amuses me the way some people in this group think I am an extreme liberal and the others think I am a right wing lunatic. If it helps you to ignore people by putting labels on them and filing them away, be my guest. But that does not make the problem go away. Are you really suggesting that some kid should be allowed to hang himself because he got a D on his chemistry test -- that he has some kind of right to do that without interference? If not, at what point do you think the decision to kill yourself should be left to the individual? |
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On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 08:49:09 -0800, "C J Campbell"
wrote in Message-Id: : Suicide reduces freedom. That must be the reason Arab children are schooled in it. :-( |
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message ... That would only be true if killing yourself does not make everybody else less free. In a free society, it doesn't. Suicide impinges on the freedom of everyone else, who must now support the suicide's family, educate his children, pay for his medical bills, and possibly even support him for the rest of his life if he botches the attempt and merely permanently disables himself. In a free society, nobody is forced to support the suicide's family, educate his children, pay for his medical bills, or support him for the rest of his life if he botches the attempt and permanently disables himself. Suicide reduces freedom. Anyone that believes that does not understand what it means to be free. |
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message ... When somebody commits suicide they are in fact attempting to control your life. They want you to pay for their problems, raise their kids, pay their medical bills, etc. Not in a free society. If you can be forced to pay for their problems, raise their kids, pay their medical bills, etc., then you are not living in a free society. |
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
... You know, it really amuses me the way some people in this group think I am an extreme liberal [lunatic] and the others think I am a right wing lunatic. Some of us just think you're a lunatic, plain and simple. |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message ink.net... "C J Campbell" wrote in message ... That would only be true if killing yourself does not make everybody else less free. In a free society, it doesn't. Suicide impinges on the freedom of everyone else, who must now support the suicide's family, educate his children, pay for his medical bills, and possibly even support him for the rest of his life if he botches the attempt and merely permanently disables himself. In a free society, nobody is forced to support the suicide's family, educate his children, pay for his medical bills, or support him for the rest of his life if he botches the attempt and permanently disables himself. An interesting point, but if you do not support the suicide's family and educate his children, then the suicide himself has decided to doom his family to poverty or even death. I don't think he has the right to do that in a free society. |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message ink.net... "C J Campbell" wrote in message ... When somebody commits suicide they are in fact attempting to control your life. They want you to pay for their problems, raise their kids, pay their medical bills, etc. Not in a free society. If you can be forced to pay for their problems, raise their kids, pay their medical bills, etc., then you are not living in a free society. And if a suicide imposes these problems on them, then they are not living in a free society, either. |
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"Otis Winslow" wrote in message ... "C J Campbell" wrote in message ... Baloney. No one's life is their own, nor is anyone an island to themselves. This is typical Liberal BS. When I hear someone else tell me how they are entitled to control my life I see red. I sure couldn't see myself taking my own life .. but would indeed be willing to defend my freedom against those wishing to control me. With maximum prejudice. One other point -- it is the liberals who are generally most supportive of a right to commit suicide. They seem to be interested in all kinds of government sanctioned death, with the notable exception of capital punishment. But they just fall all over themselves supporting the right to commit suicide, euthanize old people, and kill unborn children. It has reached the point that the Democratic Party resembles nothing so much as a cult of death worshippers. |
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In a previous article, "C J Campbell" said:
punishment. But they just fall all over themselves supporting the right to commit suicide, euthanize old people, and kill unborn children. It has reached the point that the Democratic Party resembles nothing so much as a cult of death worshippers. Remember the good old days, when it was the Republicans who thought that the government shouldn't make laws taking away your right to do something unless it harmed others? That was back before they became a wholey owned subsidiary of the radical Christian Right. -- Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/ "Stay calm, be brave, and wait for the signs!" - Jasper Friendlybear and Gracie Heavyhand. |
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