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Old February 13th 06, 12:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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I want to get a small float plane to fly from my lake to salmon streams
abt 20-40 miles away
in Ak. Land on the lakes or mouths and fish for Kings and then fly back
to my lake. Flight time prob abt 20 min one way.

wld i be better off:

1. just buying a supercub
2. buying a cessna
3. buy a fox built kit
4. Build a fox float kit

Hope someone can comment on this question -

5 Which kit wld be the best for that use? Short hops hauling several
hundred lbs + 1 or 2 passengers.

I have private liscense but not float rated yet but am retired and
ready for fun.

Are these questions too open ended?

Blueraven

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Old February 13th 06, 01:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Keep in mind that I am not the expert.

1) 20 to 40 miles away trip
2) landing on lakes or mouths

Sounds like a day trip and a lot of planes can fit into that bill. Why not
look into UL on float since it is cheaper and will do the job?


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I want to get a small float plane to fly from my lake to salmon streams
abt 20-40 miles away
in Ak. Land on the lakes or mouths and fish for Kings and then fly back
to my lake. Flight time prob abt 20 min one way.

wld i be better off:

1. just buying a supercub
2. buying a cessna
3. buy a fox built kit
4. Build a fox float kit

Hope someone can comment on this question -

5 Which kit wld be the best for that use? Short hops hauling several
hundred lbs + 1 or 2 passengers.

I have private liscense but not float rated yet but am retired and
ready for fun.

Are these questions too open ended?

Blueraven



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Old February 13th 06, 01:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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abt 20-40 miles away
in Ak. Land on the lakes or mouths and fish for Kings and then fly back
to my lake. Flight time prob abt 20 min one way.

wld i be better off:

1. just buying a supercub
2. buying a cessna
3. buy a fox built kit
4. Build a fox float kit

Hope someone can comment on this question -

5 Which kit wld be the best for that use? Short hops hauling several
hundred lbs + 1 or 2 passengers.

I have private liscense but not float rated yet but am retired and
ready for fun.

Are these questions too open ended?


If you want to haul several hundred pounds, most of what you listed are out,
because they don't have a high enough useful load. Cub, way under. Either
fox, not even close. Cessna, yes, if it is a pretty big one, most likely
with at least 250 plus HP.

A Beaver would be ideal. Big bucks, hard to find.

I think the Bearhawk (?) might work. Look it up.

Good luck.
--
Jim in NC

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Old February 13th 06, 04:20 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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T,

Im lookin online now for the price of the kits..I fnd one whose floats
were only ard $1500 new.

BR

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Old February 13th 06, 05:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"Toks Desalu" wrote in message
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Keep in mind that I am not the expert.

1) 20 to 40 miles away trip
2) landing on lakes or mouths

Sounds like a day trip and a lot of planes can fit into that bill. Why not
look into UL on float since it is cheaper and will do the job?

\
That ignores the request to carry one or two people, and several hundred
pounds.
--
Jim in NC

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Old February 13th 06, 05:47 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Pipers are used up here a lot by many people. A guy at work used to
take his PA22 and fly, with his wife, to west Ak. Get a carabou and
then fly back so I know they can do it. Lots of folk have them on
floats.

My experience is mostly with 172's except abt 10 hrs in a 210. The
172's wld carry 3 guys and camping gear.

A neighbor is an old A&E guy and he suggested an Aeronica. I rem my dad
flew that long ago along and the L-19's.

I thgt the Fox kits wld do floats.

Well thaks for your input. Im gonna file all this so i can decide.


A PA-22 (some models) have a useful load of up to about 900 lbs. If you
want to take 2 people, subtract 350 pounds, and another 150 lbs for gas.
Subtract around 200 lbs (or more?) for the floats. What are we up to? 700
pounds. That means you only have 200 lbs left for gear, or whatever you
want, but you said you wanted to carry several hundred pounds. Therefore,
this does not meet your stated needs.

The C-172 I looked up has a useful load of 940 lbs, but some of that will be
eaten up by the need to carry more fuel for the thirstier engine, so once
again, the load carrying will not be enough for what you stated.

I just think that you need to be realistic, about the size of the plane you
will need, or be prepared to downsize your requirements.

By the way, I love your idea, and hope that one day, I willl be doing much
the same thing. :-)
--
Jim in NC

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Old February 13th 06, 08:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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wrote in message
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T,

Im lookin online now for the price of the kits..I fnd one whose floats
were only ard $1500 new.

BR


Keep us up to date, on what you find, and what you end up doing, if you
will. It sounds like an interesting goal, and project!

I would like to see more kits of a real amphibian, preferably ones of a
weight and performance that would put them solidly in the new light sport
aircraft. Now for the real kicker; one that does not use the "overpriced"
Rotax. (plus I don't like Rotax!) g

I know! I'll just design and build one! (I wish/hope)
--
Jim in NC

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Old February 13th 06, 02:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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wrote in message

Pipers are used up here a lot by many people. A guy at work used to
take his PA22 and fly, with his wife, to west Ak. Get a carabou and
then fly back so I know they can do it. Lots of folk have them on
floats.

My experience is mostly with 172's except abt 10 hrs in a 210. The
172's wld carry 3 guys and camping gear.


Maybe on wheels but mount either of these planes on floats and they
become 2 seaters .
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Old February 13th 06, 02:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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roups.com...
I want to get a small float plane to fly from my lake to salmon streams
abt 20-40 miles away
in Ak. Land on the lakes or mouths and fish for Kings and then fly back
to my lake. Flight time prob abt 20 min one way.

wld i be better off:

1. just buying a supercub
2. buying a cessna
3. buy a fox built kit
4. Build a fox float kit

Hope someone can comment on this question -

5 Which kit wld be the best for that use? Short hops hauling several
hundred lbs + 1 or 2 passengers.

I have private liscense but not float rated yet but am retired and
ready for fun.

Are these questions too open ended?

Blueraven


The only plane on your list that meets your stated requirements is a
cessna. At least a 182 more likely a 185. If you want to build
consider a murphy moose or a bearhawk. Since all you want to make are
short hops you could reconsider your requirements and use a smaller
plane making several trips.
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Old February 13th 06, 03:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Which UL would that be that would fit the requirements of 2 + several
hundred pounds of cargo?


"Toks Desalu" wrote in message
news:CeQHf.2876$lG.2530@trndny01...
Keep in mind that I am not the expert.

1) 20 to 40 miles away trip
2) landing on lakes or mouths

Sounds like a day trip and a lot of planes can fit into that bill. Why not
look into UL on float since it is cheaper and will do the job?


wrote in message
oups.com...
I want to get a small float plane to fly from my lake to salmon streams
abt 20-40 miles away
in Ak. Land on the lakes or mouths and fish for Kings and then fly back
to my lake. Flight time prob abt 20 min one way.

wld i be better off:

1. just buying a supercub
2. buying a cessna
3. buy a fox built kit
4. Build a fox float kit

Hope someone can comment on this question -

5 Which kit wld be the best for that use? Short hops hauling several
hundred lbs + 1 or 2 passengers.

I have private liscense but not float rated yet but am retired and
ready for fun.

Are these questions too open ended?

Blueraven





 




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