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VISUAL AIRCRAFT RECOGNITION
On May 3, 4:03 pm, Vince wrote:
Jack Linthicum wrote: On May 3, 2:58 pm, Vince wrote: Jack Linthicum wrote: On May 3, 2:15 pm, Vince wrote: Jack Linthicum wrote: On May 3, 11:35 am, Vince wrote: TMO http://www.p-38online.com/recon.html A quick and logical explanation for the death of the P-38, P-4 and P-5 was the birth of the U-2. Hardly likely that two such systems, especially with the U-2's superior altitude performance, would co- exist. not really The U2 was not suited for battlefield reconnaissance. USAF tried the Canberra but it was a failure and then the RB-66 derived from the skywarrior which was a success Vince They were used for that purpose in Cuba, one got shot down. By October 19 the U-2 flights (then almost continuous) showed four sites were operational. and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_U-2 Cuba was not a "battlefield" Vince Tell that to the guys who flew over it. President Kennedy's favorite photograph of all those taken during the Cuban crisis was shot with the camera displayed at the museum on Nov. 10, 1962 (from less than 500 feet altitude at a speed of 713 mph). Clearly shown are Soviet-built SA-2 surface-to-air missiles in place at launch sites. These defensive missiles protected offensive weapons sites and posed a serious threat to U.S. reconnaissance aircraft. A copy of this portion of the strip photo was mounted in the President's office. Viewed with a stereoscopic projector, the features have a three-dimensional effect. The pattern of dots surrounding several launch sites are actually camouflage nets which were intended to conceal the equipment positioned beneath them, but the strip camera rendered them ineffective. http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/fac...et.asp?id=1876 Spies get shot at all the time Doesn't make it a "battlefield" they were CIA flights Vince Air Force.http://www.afa.org/magazine/valor/1295valor.asp Good spies are never detected only suspected. Name me a spy who was shot by the other side. Usually it's your own people doing Penkovskii and his like in so they can't remember anything later. the pilots were airforce but the flights were CIA. They were reported by the CIA The track of the mission approved on 9 October was plotted to include coverage of the San Cristóbal trapezoid. The overflight did not actually occur until 14 October, owing to inclement weather forecasts and the time needed to train an air force pilot in the intricacies of the more powerful U-2s operated by the CIA.[79] But eventually, Maj. Richard Heyser piloted the U-2 that took 928 photographs in six minutes over an area of Cuba that had not been photographed for 45 days.[80] The film was rushed to Suitland, Maryland, for processing and arrived at NPIC on the morning of 15 October. Shortly before 4:00 p.m., the CIA photo-interpreter on a team of four analysts announced, "We've got MRBMs [medium range ballistic missiles] in Cuba."[81] It was a "moment of splendor" for the U-2, its cameras and film, and the photo-interpreters, as Sherman Kent later put it, if not the CIA's finest hour of the Cold War.[82] The president issued blanket authority for unrestricted U-2 overflights on 16 October, and the missile crisis commenced in earnest. https://www.cia.gov/csi/studies/vol4...hoto_Gap_2.htm "On the morning of October 14, 1962, a U-2 aircraft, piloted by Air Force Major Richard D. Heyser, flew a reconnaissance mission over the western part of Cuba, flying from south to north. The 928 photographs obtained during the 6-minute flight over the island produced the first verified evidence of the existence of Soviet offensive missile sites in Cuba. Analysis and interpretation of the photographs at the National Photographic Intelligence Center revealed that three medium-range ballistic missile sites were being developed near San Cristobal, in Pinar del Rio province. Photo analysts counted eight large MRBM transporters at the three locations and four erector launchers in tentative firing positions. Two further U-2 missions, flown on October 15 by pilots of the Strategic Air Command, revealed a fourth MRBM site near San Cristobal, and two intermediate-range ballistic missile (IRBM) sites were discovered at Guanajay. Photos also revealed 21 crates for Soviet IL-28 Beagle medium-range bomber aircraft at San Julian airfield. (Chronology of Air Force Actions During the Cuban Crisis, 14 October-30 October 1962; USAF Historical Division Liaison Office, pages 11-12) At 8:30 p.m. on October 15 CIA Deputy Director Carter reported to McGeorge Bundy the hard evidence of the MRBM's, but the President's Special Assistant decided not to notify the President that evening. In a memorandum to the President, dated March 4, 1963, Bundy explained his reasons for this decision: " http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/di...ba/cuba016.htm On October 10, NSA reported that the Cuban air defense system seemed to be complete. They had just begun passing radar tracking from radar stations to higher headquarters and to defensive fighter bases using Soviet procedures. Their system, with Russians in advisory positions at every point, was ready for business. It was into this defensive thicket that a CIA U-2 flew four days later. Although it survived, on October 25 another U-2 was shot down. http://www.nsa.gov/publications/publi00033.cfm Vince The analysis was CIA, the collection was by the Air Force. "The other U-2" was Air Force President John F. Kennedy directed Strategic Air Command to begin U-2 high-altitude reconnaissance flights over the island. The U-2 flights were made by Major Anderson and Maj. Richard S. Heyser and were supplemented later by low-altitude RF-101 coverage. On Oct. 27, while negotiations between President Kennedy and Premier Khrushchev were still under way, Major Anderson's U-2 was shot down by an SA-2 missile and he was killed. By personal direction of the President, Major Anderson was posthumously awarded the first Air Force Cross. (By regulation, the Bronze Star was then the highest combat decoration that could be made for Cold War action.) The photographs provided by him and other Air Force pilots had rallied worldwide support behind the US refusal to allow Soviet nuclear-armed missiles in the western hemisphere. I have seen pictures of kennedy down on the carpet in one of his offices, looking at the large blow-up of the U-2 camera take with a magnifying glass. At one point he found a missile sticking out from under a canopy and was faithfully recorded with an ID. |
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