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F'ing insurance industry
My employer chose perhaps the most expensive and most useless insurance policy they could, and today I called up Allegis Benefits and chewed them up. Check this out: "What is not covered under all plans: - Suicide or attempted suicide while sane or insane - Acts of war (declared or undeclared) - Your commission of a felony - Your operating, riding in, or descending from any ay aircraft other than while a fare-paying passenger on a licensed, commercial, non-military aircraft..." So flying a plane puts me in company with suicides and criminals. She thought that was funny. Just to clarify, I asked her: If I walk into a prop or go streaking across the runway and get clobbered by a landing jet, I am not "operating, riding in or descending" and so I am covered. "Strictly speaking, yes," she replied. I finished the call by telling her that insurance industry employees will never be welcome in my cockpit. That should be a standing code among GA pilots: If an insurance employee wants to fly, he or she can take a jet or leap from a building. There's no room in general aviation for people who liken pilots to felons and the insane. -c |
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I finished the call by telling her that insurance industry employees will
never be welcome in my cockpit. That should be a standing code among GA pilots: If an insurance employee wants to fly, he or she can take a jet or leap from a building. There's no room in general aviation for people who liken pilots to felons and the insane. Your anger should be directed at your employer, not the insurance company who simply tried to come up with the cheapest piece-of-crap-policy your employer was willing to buy. That said, I hate insurance companies even more than you do. You wouldn't believe what it costs to insure my little hotel -- and, since they all work in cahoots with each other, no other insurance company will even give me a QUOTE, let alone offer a lower rate. It ought to be illegal. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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"gatt" wrote in message ... My employer chose perhaps the most expensive and most useless insurance policy they could, and today I called up Allegis Benefits and chewed them up. Check this out: "What is not covered under all plans: - Suicide or attempted suicide while sane or insane - Acts of war (declared or undeclared) - Your commission of a felony - Your operating, riding in, or descending from any ay aircraft other than while a fare-paying passenger on a licensed, commercial, non-military aircraft..." One policy I had excluded those things and also riding on a motorcycle, riding a bicycle in an "urban" environment, scuba diving, and injuries or death resulting from riding in a motor vehicle if you weren't wearing a seat belt. I think it would read much simpler, and be a shorter document, if they just said what situations they *did* cover. What I like are the policies that exclude "Acts of God." Isn't it arguable that any bad thing that happens is an "Act of God?" Most of the time we are pretty powerless to do anything. The worst one, at least around here where we are close to a nuclear power plant, is that homeowner's insurance won't cover that at all. The power company has, by legislation, been absolved of responsibility, and the state and federal government won't help either. However, the bank does point out explicitly that in such a case the homeowner will be required to pay the balance of the loan (i.e., it will be called) which means for virtually everyone, immediate bankruptcy. And, oh yes, you are NOT entitled to a refund of your remaining insurance premium... |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:7pekc.17445 Your anger should be directed at your employer, not the insurance company who simply tried to come up with the cheapest piece-of-crap-policy your employer was willing to buy. Ah, yes. Well, they're aware of my anger. The company is a contractor provider and I was hired through the contractee directly, so when I was filling out the paperwork the lady at the contract agency said "Our medical isn't very good, but contractors get almost as good of dental benefits as our employees." Knowing that they couldn't fire me, I said "So, basically, although I'm representing your company and working on your customer's wide area network, I'm just the product. The paper pushers and receptionists are the 'actual' employees here. Thanks for clearing that up." As punishment for her comment, I didn't enroll in direct deposit. They drive out and hand-deliver my paycheck each week. That said, I hate insurance companies even more than you do. You wouldn't believe what it costs to insure my little hotel -... It ought to be illegal. Yep. -c |
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What I like are the policies that exclude "Acts of God." Isn't it
arguable that any bad thing that happens is an "Act of God?" Ah, no. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:mVekc.17582$RE1.1503458@attbi_s54... What I like are the policies that exclude "Acts of God." Isn't it arguable that any bad thing that happens is an "Act of God?" Ah, no. I know people who claim *everything* is under the control of God. But that's neither here nor there. I guess my point is that I think that an insurance policy should not be referencing God, unless they feel that their customers need to pray for fair treatment by them. |
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I know people who claim *everything* is under the control of God.
An omnipotent God and man's free will cannot coexist. Therefore, you are correct -- an insurance company should not be referencing God -- unless they believe their insured's bad "luck" to be pre-destined. ;-) -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
newsefkc.342$kh4.18552@attbi_s52... I know people who claim *everything* is under the control of God. An omnipotent God and man's free will cannot coexist. That is logical. But, unfortunately (IMHO), for these people "faith" replaces logic. Therefore, you are correct -- an insurance company should not be referencing God -- unless they believe their insured's bad "luck" to be pre-destined. An insurance company who knew beforehand what each insured's losses would be would be quite profitable indeed. |
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If IIRC, the term "Act Of God" goes back to English Common Law.
Now this part gets confusing, so please bear with me. The term is not act of God, which would imply a literal act of God, it is "Act Of God", which is a label used in law to describe a specific collection of events. So, if a blind person could suddenly see, it might well be an act of God, but it would not be an "Act Of God", as it would not belong to the group of events covered by that term. So, when you come across "Act Of God" in an insurance policy, the insurer is not saying that it was an event caused by a higher power, they are simply saying that it was an event that meets the long established legal definition of an "Act Of God". Ain't legal stuff fun? "Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message . net... "Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:mVekc.17582$RE1.1503458@attbi_s54... What I like are the policies that exclude "Acts of God." Isn't it arguable that any bad thing that happens is an "Act of God?" Ah, no. I know people who claim *everything* is under the control of God. But that's neither here nor there. I guess my point is that I think that an insurance policy should not be referencing God, unless they feel that their customers need to pray for fair treatment by them. |
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"Bill Denton" wrote in message ... If IIRC, the term "Act Of God" goes back to English Common Law. Now this part gets confusing, so please bear with me. The term is not act of God, which would imply a literal act of God, it is "Act Of God", which is a label used in law to describe a specific collection of events. So, if a blind person could suddenly see, it might well be an act of God, but it would not be an "Act Of God", as it would not belong to the group of events covered by that term. So, when you come across "Act Of God" in an insurance policy, the insurer is not saying that it was an event caused by a higher power, they are simply saying that it was an event that meets the long established legal definition of an "Act Of God". Ain't legal stuff fun? I figured it was something like that, I just wish they clearly defined what those risks were. Oh, legal stuff is a blast. Just follow the SCO story (www.groklaw.net) for a while to see some "fun" things that can happen. |
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