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FAR Part 97: Aircraft Approach Categories - IAS vs Ground Speed



 
 
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Old July 15th 05, 07:52 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Mark Hansen" wrote in message
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No, Actually, he's not (unfortunately).


Well, he had to get the idea they were ground speeds somewhere. The timing
table is pretty much the only possible source.


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Old July 15th 05, 07:59 PM
Mark Hansen
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On 7/15/2005 11:52, Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

"Mark Hansen" wrote in message
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No, Actually, he's not (unfortunately).


Well, he had to get the idea they were ground speeds somewhere. The timing
table is pretty much the only possible source.



His reasoning is that the faster we're moving across the ground,
the faster we'll move outside of the protected area, for example,
on the circling maneuver, and that to use the higher minimums
'just made good common sense'.

However, he's interpreting the rule using this 'common sense'
and claiming that this is what the rule implies.

He made it clear to me that he was talking about the approach category
minimums and not just the time from FAF to MAP (which, of course,
is based on ground speed).



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Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Student
Sacramento, CA
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Old July 15th 05, 08:12 PM
Mike Rapoport
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"Mark Hansen" wrote in message
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On 7/15/2005 11:52, Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

"Mark Hansen" wrote in message
...

No, Actually, he's not (unfortunately).


Well, he had to get the idea they were ground speeds somewhere. The
timing table is pretty much the only possible source.


His reasoning is that the faster we're moving across the ground,
the faster we'll move outside of the protected area, for example,
on the circling maneuver, and that to use the higher minimums
'just made good common sense'.

However, he's interpreting the rule using this 'common sense'
and claiming that this is what the rule implies.

He made it clear to me that he was talking about the approach category
minimums and not just the time from FAF to MAP (which, of course,
is based on ground speed).



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Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Student
Sacramento, CA


This CFII is stupid. Once you start circling the winds change and will
become a headwind at some point.

Mike
MU-2


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Old July 15th 05, 10:01 PM
Stan Gosnell
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Mark Hansen wrote in
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His reasoning is that the faster we're moving across the ground,
the faster we'll move outside of the protected area, for example,
on the circling maneuver, and that to use the higher minimums
'just made good common sense'.


He has no idea what he's talking about. TERPS takes tailwinds into
account, and it's not possible to exceed the protected airspace if you
use the correct airspeed, and don't have a hurricane blowing behind you.
And in that case, you need to reconsider flying that approach.

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Stan

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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." B. Franklin
 




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