At the risk of feeding the troll, what IS Skylune's beef?

("Skylune" wrote)
Your inability to say what you are responding to is what's truly
ludicrous.

As is your apparent inability to figure it out, especially on a thread
with only a few posts.


Many times a post will show up independent of any supporting thread.


Montblack

"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...
by John Theune JTheune@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Oct 26, 2005 at 05:45 PM


Skylune wrote:
Wrong, wrong, and wrong. Absolutely ludicrous.

Your inability to say what you are responding to is what's truly
ludicrous.

As is your apparent inability to figure it out, especially on a thread
with only a few posts.

Those of us that use real newsreaders instead of places like
talkaviation.com usually have our clients set to not show messages we have
already read.

Skylune wrote:
Wrong, wrong, and wrong. Absolutely ludicrous.

What is? Absolutely no context.

I access this site via talkaboutaviation.com. When I post a reply, I hit
the "Post a reply" button. I have no idea what "real newsreaders" are.

"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...
I access this site via talkaboutaviation.com. When I post a reply, I hit
the "Post a reply" button. I have no idea what "real newsreaders" are.



First, this is not a "site" in the same way amazon.com or
talkaboutaviation.com is. It is a group messaging system called USENET. No
one computer or server controls it. USENET news servers scattered around the
internet share the messages posted to them by users such as yourself with
other news servers. Most ISPs have a news server and offer it to their users
for no cost. There are also public news server that you can subscribe to
most charge but there may still be a free one or two out there.

In the days before the WWW you had to use a newsreader to get these messages
and it is still probably the best way to do it. If you have Outlook Express
on your computer you have a "real" newsreader. While not the best it is easy
to use and everyone with Windows got it for free.

It has features that will allow things like posting the message you are
replying to be added to the message as it has posted your message above.

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
It is a group messaging system called USENET. No
one computer or server controls it. USENET news servers scattered around the
internet share the messages posted to them by users such as yourself with
other news servers

Skylune:

A thing to keep in mind is that messages on usenet do not appear in the
same order for everyone; i.e., I might very well see you reply before
the message you are replying to; so that's why it is very confusing
when one replies to a post without quoting the message he's replying
to... now, don't go overboard and quote the whole thing, which some
people do, and which is annoying to, just to add a line or two;
but you should quote enough so that who ever reads your post has
some kind of idea of what you are talking about.

(I am using Thunderbird for email and usenet; dunno if it is the 'best'
newsreader out there, but it runs on every platform I have access to)

--Sylvain

Thanks for the explanation. I never did understand how all the

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got automatically posted. Wouldn't it be easier to simply use the
talkaboutaviation.com web site? It doesn't seem to complicated to follow a
thread if you hit Post a reply, as I'm doing now..

"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...
Thanks for the explanation. I never did understand how all the

xxx said ...
xxxx
xxxx

got automatically posted. Wouldn't it be easier to simply use the
talkaboutaviation.com web site? It doesn't seem to complicated to follow a
thread if you hit Post a reply, as I'm doing now..


This is a perfect example. I don't know if you are responding to my message
or the one that is up thread as far (as my news feed is concerned) that was
posted by Sylvain.

Also, if even a small percentage of those people that post and those that
just read the aviation newsgroups posted and read through talkaboutaviation
it would be overwhelmed. They couldn't pay for the bandwidth.

The web is great for things the web is great for newsgroups is not one of
those things.

Skylune wrote:
Wouldn't it be easier to simply use the
talkaboutaviation.com web site? It doesn't seem to complicated to follow a
thread if you hit Post a reply, as I'm doing now..

The thing is that some of us also follow other newsgroups not
necessarily related to aviation, and it's kinda handy to rely
on only one interface for all of them.

Besides, relying on a web site like that 'serialize' newsgroup
posts, which might be neat, kind of defeat the purpose of
usenet (which is a decentralized thing), and it adds another
layer to something that has been working fine without it for a
long time (way before WWW came along) -- but may be that's just
me: I fly rental GA airplanes... i.e., love somewhat
older technologies, I still use slide rules, etc. :-) although
I am not a true purist, real men use emacs for their internet
browsing needs, but I have digressed completely here :-)

--Sylvain

"Skylune" wrote:
Wouldn't it be easier to simply use the
talkaboutaviation.com web site? It doesn't seem to complicated to
follow a thread if you hit Post a reply, as I'm doing now..

Take a look at Google Groups, which is another web-based interface to
Usenet newsgroups. Here's Google's interface URL for this group:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.piloting

The advantage of Google groups (or any other Usenet access provider) over a
subject specific site like www.talkaboutaviation.com is that you can join
in discussions outside the aviation realm. For example, if you have a hobby
or other interests (photography, skiing, metal working, etc.) you can use a
single provider to access discussion groups on all those subjects, rather
than locating web sites that gateway a subset of Usenet discussion groups.

Here's a bunch of FAQs on Usenet itself:
http://www.faqs.org/usenet/